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Well well my my the echo I had before the 335 was better than them all, go echo!


Oh No!! It's reached the point now where Echos are being described as a worthy saw?

Sigh.. Such a pity.. it's Christmas day yet there's still people out there tripping over the edge of sanity and going completely loco! Rope ya need urgent psychiatric help fella, those delusions have gotten seriously out of control!
 
Unless he had me fooled, Manual would get down right mad at times.

And as far as bigger saws goes, don't think I will ever buy another new
big saw again. I will spend it on other things that I can have fun with
and be worth more money later.

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Id be getting to reloading those empty cases!!looks like about 2 lbs of h-110 powder and a #### ton of lead and toss in some cci primers and your good to go!! on 2nd thought those look like 44mag cases.. go for about 3lbs of powder and about 5-600 240grn jsp's and your stylin :D or am i mistakin' its a 38? hard to tell in that pic
 
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Id be getting to reloading those empty cases!!looks like about 2 lbs of h-110 powder and a #### ton of lead and toss in some cci primers and your good to go!! on 2nd thought those look like 44mag cases.. go for about 3lbs of powder and about 5-600 240grn jsp's and your stylin :D or am i mistakin' its a 38? hard to tell in that pic

It's a S&W model 18 K frame, 22lr, I shoot any were from 5000 to 20,000 rds per
year of 22lr. in pistols, revolvers and bolt action rifles.
I have buckets full of spent 22lr brass. I also shoot a good bit
of center fire, pistol and shotgun. In 2006 I started stocking up on bullets and primers.
Back then I could get 5,000 primers for $70, in center fire pistols
I shoot cast lead bullets, our club goes in and makes couple orders a year.
I would hate to try a guess how many 8lb kegs of power I have reloaded and shot.
We get them cheaper this way, not to long ago 9mm 115gr was $22 per 1000
and 45 cal 200gr SWC was $32 a 1000..........them days are gone!
 
I have an 18k also, one sweet little pistol, everyone that see's it wants to buy it. Also have its twin the 15 .38 spec my father was issued back in 65.
 
I have an 18k also, one sweet little pistol, everyone that see's it wants to buy it. Also have its twin the 15 .38 spec my father was issued back in 65.

Yup, I have both 15 and 65, the 15 has TT &TH, I made a round butt out of the 65. Only one I have seen like it as they only came with SB.

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I re-read the post, 15 in 1965 :)

The 65 is same as 15 but made of SS



TT
 
It's a S&W model 18 K frame, 22lr, I shoot any were from 5000 to 20,000 rds per
year of 22lr. in pistols, revolvers and bolt action rifles.
I have buckets full of spent 22lr brass. I also shoot a good bit
of center fire, pistol and shotgun. In 2006 I started stocking up on bullets and primers.
Back then I could get 5,000 primers for $70, in center fire pistols
I shoot cast lead bullets, our club goes in and makes couple orders a year.
I would hate to try a guess how many 8lb kegs of power I have reloaded and shot.
We get them cheaper this way, not to long ago 9mm 115gr was $22 per 1000
and 45 cal 200gr SWC was $32 a 1000..........them days are gone!

go figure my eyes are that bad lol.. well atleast a .22 is alot cheaper 2 shoot that the other 2 mentioned. I reload quite a bit myself.. apparently I need glasses :)
 
go figure my eyes are that bad lol.. well atleast a .22 is alot cheaper 2 shoot that the other 2 mentioned. I reload quite a bit myself.. apparently I need glasses :)


That must be why you have Husky saws.........you don't know a good saw when you see one :hmm3grin2orange:



I could not help myself :cheers:


Merry Christmas
 
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I like .22s...


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:bringit: husky men are ready


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TT... I think you like wheelguns ...;)
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Lol nah husky men also like air support lol

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How does modding a saw properly lower it's durability? Detailed answer please...



Are you experienced enough in sustained felling to comment on modded saws? Modding a 200T may not increase production but I can assure you it can on other saws. You're pretty new here by the looks of it but I can assure you on a 7,800 odd tree felling job I did that a ported saw increased productivity by around 15-20%. Trees per hour, day, and overall were recorded, fuel usage was recorded etc etc. There are many people running modded saws in the timber industry.

So you think a properly modded saw will have the same durabilty i don't think so thats like saying you are smarter than the manufacture.

An do i have enough experience to comment why yes! it is a forum now isn't?

Im mainly saying that if Brad charges more than 75.00 for his services its a joke all you need for any saw is a muffler modd that will do more good than any porting on a worksaw an that anything over 75.00 is to pricey!!!!!!!!!!!! Later Troy
 
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all you need for any saw is a muffler modd that will do more good than any porting on a worksaw an that anything over 75.00 is to pricey!!!!!!!!!!!! Later Troy
It's evident you have never ran a properly ported work saw. Stick around, you might learn something.
 
I can't even come up with a good reply for that, lol. You're just showing your ignorance. Now I didn't say you're stupid,you just obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about:hmm3grin2orange:

Well i might be ignorant and i might be stupid but one things for sure im not as stupid and ingnorant as most of your customer's Brad letting you over charge for your service's and what it's worth LOL!!!!!!! You and other's say a port saw will in fact run cooler and perform better and last longer. Infact it might perform a little better but cooler not a chance!!!! I don't care how much you port a saw and the muffler it will still operate at the same tempure when adjusted properly. Tempure comes from the fuel mixture settings and has nothing to do with porting the richer the fuel mixture the cooler it will run the leaner the hotter it will run. When opening up the muffler yes it breath's better and in most cases you have to richen up the saw because you are letting the unburnt gas out of the exhaust and reliefs the back pressure so it makes the saw run lean and infact hotter at that point but once you richen the saw up its back to the same operating tempure. So MR NO IT ALL PLEASE INFACT JUST TELL ME HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will be waiting Thanks Troy


By the way if you think I'm wrong please explain in great detail how it runs cooler be ported i would really like to know!!!!!
 
So you think a properly modded saw will have the same durabilty i don't think so thats like saying you are smarter than the manufacture.

An do i have enough experience to comment why yes! it is a forum now isn't?

Im mainly saying that if Brad charges more than 75.00 for his services its a joke all you need for any saw is a muffler modd that will do more good than any porting on a worksaw an that anything over 75.00 is to pricey!!!!!!!!!!!! Later Troy

Smarter than the manufacturer? No.
Do we have more time to clean up cylinder ports etc to make a saw run better? Yes. Manufacturers do not have the time to do that on each saw they sell. Are you saying that modifying a car motor cannot gain power yet still be as reliable than a stock motor? You obviously have no idea of what goes on in a wood's ported saw. If you do please inform us all of what parts are weakened to make the saw less reliable and your reasoning.
Having the experience to comment, sure, but knowing what you're commenting about, well, um, no...

It is quite obvious you have never had the opportunity to run a ported saw next to a stock one with the ability to swap between modified and stock mufflers. If you had and still came to the conclusion you have then it's time for some prescribed medication.

Well i might be ignorant and i might be stupid but one things for sure im not as stupid and ingnorant as most of your customer's Brad letting you over charge for your service's and what it's worth LOL!!!!!!! You and other's say a port saw will in fact run cooler and perform better and last longer. Infact it might perform a little better but cooler not a chance!!!! I don't care how much you port a saw and the muffler it will still operate at the same tempure when adjusted properly. Tempure comes from the fuel mixture settings and has nothing to do with porting the richer the fuel mixture the cooler it will run the leaner the hotter it will run. When opening up the muffler yes it breath's better and in most cases you have to richen up the saw because you are letting the unburnt gas out of the exhaust and reliefs the back pressure so it makes the saw run lean and infact hotter at that point but once you richen the saw up its back to the same operating tempure. So MR NO IT ALL PLEASE INFACT JUST TELL ME HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will be waiting Thanks Troy

I'd dearly love to have access to an infrared thermometer to show you you're full of sh*t. On an unmodified Dolmar 7900 muffler it is quite common to see hot spots that have burnt through the plating. You won't see this on a modified muffler. Mufflers are designed to create choke points to therefore slow down or "muffle" the sound. Those choke points create friction. If you ever studied physics you would realise friction creates heat. I know, it's probably a whole new concept for somebody such as yourself but checkout Google if you get stuck with that theory. In case you're wondering I didn't come up with that theory on friction creates heat either.
You also just called me stupid and ignorant as I have numerous saws ported by Brad. I can tell by your various spelling and grammer mistakes that you're no rocket scientist, far from it in fact. I also think you're starting to get just a bit too excited and overly defensive because a few of us have disagreed with you when obviously you know exactly what you're talking about. Probably didn't get that Barbie Doll you wanted for Christmas either, I mean I know if that happened to me I'd be angry too...
 
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Smarter than the manufacturer? No.
Do we have more time to clean up cylinder ports etc to make a saw run better? Yes. Manufacturers do not have the time to do that on each saw they sell. Are you saying that modifying a car motor cannot gain power yet still be as reliable than a stock motor? You obviously have no idea of what goes on in a wood's ported saw. If you do please inform us all of what parts are weakened to make the saw less reliable and your reasoning.
Having the experience to comment, sure, but knowing what you're commenting about, well, um, no...

It is quite obvious you have never had the opportunity to run a ported saw next to a stock one with the ability to swap between modified and stock mufflers. If you had and still came to the conclusion you have then it's time for some prescribed medication.



I'd dearly love to have access to an infrared thermometer to show you you're full of sh*t. On an unmodified Dolmar 7900 muffler it is quite common to see hot spots that have burnt through the plating. You won't see this on a modified muffler. Mufflers are designed to create choke points to therefore slow down or "muffle" the sound. Those choke points create friction. If you ever studied physics you would realise friction creates heat. I know, it's probably a whole new concept for somebody such as yourself but checkout Google if you get stuck with that theory. In case you're wondering I didn't come up with that theory on friction creates heat either.
You also just called me stupid and ignorant as I have numerous saws ported by Brad. I can tell by your various spelling and grammer mistakes that you're no rocket scientist, far from it in fact. I also think you're starting to get just a bit too excited and overly defensive because a few of us have disagreed with you when obviously you know exactly what you're talking about. Probably didn't get that Barbie Doll you wanted for Christmas either, I mean I know if that happened to me I'd be angry too...

:clap: and how much would the saw cost if the manufacturer put the labor in to building it that way?
 
I'm a die hard Husky guy.

I will admit the MS 200t is the best climbing saw out there. Until you have used one,you won't understand. Plain and simple. If they were crap at $600,I would think that no one would buy them. Obviously,that is not the case. I just sold mine since it's slow this time of year and I'm busy moving. I will be buying the Husky 540xpt as soon as it comes out. If it doesn't run as good as the 200t or it's not out in the spring,I will be buying a new 200t.

I believe you get what you pay for.The price of the 200t is tough to swallow at first but once you pull the muffler screen and adjust the carb,you will realize $600 is a more than fair price.If you are not hanging from a rope in the tree or you are a bucket baby,I don't see the point in having one.On the ground,I'd rather have the 346xp.

I only buy Stihl top handle chainsaws and pole saws. Nothing else.
 
Smarter than the manufacturer? No.
Do we have more time to clean up cylinder ports etc to make a saw run better? Yes. Manufacturers do not have the time to do that on each saw they sell. Are you saying that modifying a car motor cannot gain power yet still be as reliable than a stock motor? You obviously have no idea of what goes on in a wood's ported saw. If you do please inform us all of what parts are weakened to make the saw less reliable and your reasoning.
Having the experience to comment, sure, but knowing what you're commenting about, well, um, no...

It is quite obvious you have never had the opportunity to run a ported saw next to a stock one with the ability to swap between modified and stock mufflers. If you had and still came to the conclusion you have then it's time for some prescribed medication.



I'd dearly love to have access to an infrared thermometer to show you you're full of sh*t. On an unmodified Dolmar 7900 muffler it is quite common to see hot spots that have burnt through the plating. You won't see this on a modified muffler. Mufflers are designed to create choke points to therefore slow down or "muffle" the sound. Those choke points create friction. If you ever studied physics you would realise friction creates heat. I know, it's probably a whole new concept for somebody such as yourself but checkout Google if you get stuck with that theory. In case you're wondering I didn't come up with that theory on friction creates heat either.
You also just called me stupid and ignorant as I have numerous saws ported by Brad. I can tell by your various spelling and grammer mistakes that you're no rocket scientist, far from it in fact. I also think you're starting to get just a bit too excited and overly defensive because a few of us have disagreed with you when obviously you know exactly what you're talking about. Probably didn't get that Barbie Doll you wanted for Christmas either, I mean I know if that happened to me I'd be angry too...

Haveing a infraded thermometer want tell you nothing you need a egt probe when the exhaust leaves the port is what makes the heat you adjust the fuel mixture to get a exhaust tempure of 900 degrees it will be rich and four strokeing lean the saw up to get around 1050to1100 degrees then it will run smoothly and perfectly but yet not to hot nor to clod so how does porting one change that fact PLEASE ANSWER can't wait and by the way i'm not mad about not getting Bardie i'm mad because i've been up all night drinking eggnog and apple brandy an so drunk i can't make LOVE to my blow up Doll!!!!! but at least i still know what im talking about when im sober and drunk LOL!!! Later Troy
 

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