so why exactly are ms200t's so expensive?

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Im mainly saying that if Brad charges more than 75.00 for his services its a joke all you need for any saw is a muffler modd that will do more good than any porting on a worksaw an that anything over 75.00 is to pricey!!!!!!!!!!!! Later Troy

Why muffler modify a saw? Doesn't come from the factory that way. I am not a fan a Brads any more than I am a fan of members in general here, but, I can imagine that the man has several hours in porting a saw. What is a skilled trade worth? I would say that even $75hr. is not outrageous. My own opinion on a ported 200t is that I would not want one. They see very hard use and it would seem to me to put a ton of stress on such a small saw that already is close to peak performance. That being said, on a larger saw I don't see a problem at all. IMO a heavier platform can definately withstand the modifications. The fact that ported saws can be used for work has been proven by many guys out west, and down under lol, who run them to make a living. And logging, to me, is the environment where a saw would get worked the most. Not like tree work where several saws are going to be used over the course of a job. Now a modded 200 may be great for certain pruning applications, I wouldn't know for sure about that, but in small bursts it may be the ticket for the people who do that work. Now for general tree work, better time gains are going to come from improving your general work techniques. Sorry for the slightly rambling post.
Later John
 
Why muffler modify a saw? Doesn't come from the factory that way. I am not a fan a Brads any more than I am a fan of members in general here, but, I can imagine that the man has several hours in porting a saw. What is a skilled trade worth? I would say that even $75hr. is not outrageous. My own opinion on a ported 200t is that I would not want one. They see very hard use and it would seem to me to put a ton of stress on such a small saw that already is close to peak performance. That being said, on a larger saw I don't see a problem at all. IMO a heavier platform can definately withstand the modifications. The fact that ported saws can be used for work has been proven by many guys out west, and down under lol, who run them to make a living. And logging, to me, is the environment where a saw would get worked the most. Not like tree work where several saws are going to be used over the course of a job. Now a modded 200 may be great for certain pruning applications, I wouldn't know for sure about that, but in small bursts it may be the ticket for the people who do that work. Now for general tree work, better time gains are going to come from improving your general work techniques. Sorry for the slightly rambling post.
Later John

I would not buy a ported saw, let alone pay someone to experiment on it. The only results they get is noise!

ZG
 
not to mention that the manufacturer has to abide by epa regulations in order to sell their saw and it there in is the epa regs that kill most saws... most modding is done to remove the regulated crap that they put on the saw. IE .. the newer huskys are epa regulated to 50 hours of work before there "out of spec" by the epa standards. all the epa has done is restricted airflow (less power) restricted the muffler (big power loss and head build up) and put regs on pistons (lower power) im sure I have missed a few things. All this just to pass emissions and, it also adds more cost and costly repairs to the saw. Not to mention that it gives "the man" a little bit more control over us.
 
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merry x mas ang! .. ya must be a stihlhead!

Yea I am...

but I love my 395, 385 and that junk of a saw the 372...oh and when Spike gets me a 560 Im buyin one of those POS's too. Husky sux !!!! :hmm3grin2orange:

I just prefer to work on Stihls, I like running all kinds. So I guess that makes me a Stihlhead !!!
 
Yea I am...

but I love my 395, 385 and that junk of a saw the 372...oh and when Spike gets me a 560 Im buyin one of those POS's too. Husky sux !!!! :hmm3grin2orange:

I just prefer to work on Stihls, I like running all kinds. So I guess that makes me a Stihlhead !!!

nothing wrong with running all diff brands.. what works for you is what works for you :D toss in a dolmar er 2 in the mix and your stylin'
 
Well i might be ignorant and i might be stupid but one things for sure im not as stupid and ingnorant as most of your customer's Brad letting you over charge for your service's and what it's worth LOL!!!!!!! You and other's say a port saw will in fact run cooler and perform better and last longer. Infact it might perform a little better but cooler not a chance!!!! I don't care how much you port a saw and the muffler it will still operate at the same tempure when adjusted properly. Tempure comes from the fuel mixture settings and has nothing to do with porting the richer the fuel mixture the cooler it will run the leaner the hotter it will run. When opening up the muffler yes it breath's better and in most cases you have to richen up the saw because you are letting the unburnt gas out of the exhaust and reliefs the back pressure so it makes the saw run lean and infact hotter at that point but once you richen the saw up its back to the same operating tempure. So MR NO IT ALL PLEASE INFACT JUST TELL ME HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will be waiting Thanks Troy


By the way if you think I'm wrong please explain in great detail how it runs cooler be ported i would really like to know!!!!!

You are an absolute joke. I have never said that a ported saw runs cooler. Quite the opposite is true. And a "little more power"? Wow, have you got a lot to learn. You're dissing something you've obviously never even experienced. In the spirit of Christmas, you are a real Scrooge, lol.
 
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Haveing a infraded thermometer want tell you nothing you need a egt probe when the exhaust leaves the port is what makes the heat you adjust the fuel mixture to get a exhaust tempure of 900 degrees it will be rich and four strokeing lean the saw up to get around 1050to1100 degrees then it will run smoothly and perfectly but yet not to hot nor to clod so how does porting one change that fact PLEASE ANSWER can't wait and by the way i'm not mad about not getting Bardie i'm mad because i've been up all night drinking eggnog and apple brandy an so drunk i can't make LOVE to my blow up Doll!!!!! but at least i still know what im talking about when im sober and drunk LOL!!! Later Troy

I can't help but think you've been reading car modification magazines or motorbikes etc, not realising that a chainsaw's muffler is attached directly to the exhaust port so your theory is null and void. How much temperature loss would you expect over an inch, maybe two at the most? I never said porting a saw makes it run cooler, I said muffler modding one will, and surprise surprise if you do a bit of homework you'll realise I'm right. In fact common sense will tell you that there is less heat buildup in a modified muffler than a stock one, ESPECIALLY when that saw is being worked hard. Remember we're not talking no load heat either.
Eggnog, Apple Brandy, and blow up doll - don't worry mate, we've all been there ;)
 
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Yeah I recall Manual, I use to like to fuss with him. He got in abit of a scobble over some saws and such with a few members on here. Don't know if he got banned or just never came back after all that fuss. He was fun, no match for ole Daddy here but fun. I use to talked to him on the phone and we'd have a good laff and then come right back in here and go at like cats and dogs, awww the good ole days. Woodie was another. Helluva nice guy on the phone but on this board it was war baby. See not everything is as it appears alot of times, its mostly all in fun,:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Yeah, me an Manual used to whoop yer axe pretty good, ya hornschwaggling donut hole. I miss that sum#####, Manual. Stuck up for the little guy every time, he did. Except for Stihl...that was one little guy he had no luv fer.
 
All I've had for years is an old worn out 009 Stihl, I don't climb, but we get up in the tractor bucket to trim limbs around the fields and it did the job for years.
My son picked up a 200T last winter and it has run flawlessly so far, he picked it up used, gave around 400.00 for it. It's a hell of an improvement over the 009, the meanest little top handle I've ever picked up. Is it worth the money?
If I made my living climbing and trimming you could bet I'd have one.

My 009 beat a 200T at a recent GTG.

I'm just sayin.

200T is the best climbing saw, though.
 
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