Loading cut split firewood slabwood with bucket?

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I would do it different. I would buy old grain trucks and leave them at the mills. Let the mills load right into the grain trucks and call you when they are going to be full. If you can't do that load with the skid steer. Usde a regular bucket. Hit the pile about 6-8"inches high. Flip the bucket and you'll get the stuff to fall in it. Work your way around the pile while you helper throws the pieces close to the ground back onto the pile right behind you. You can load a trailer fast like this.

Scott
 
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STLfirewood, i like your idea, and thats what i'm leaning towards, although i found a dump trailer that i'd like to use instead. What is the size of the dump boxes on the grain trucks? View attachment 218889

Also, how much does an old grain truck go for? I can get a dump trailer like the picture shown for around 7-10k. I could just leave it under conveyor and they can call me when its done. I would only use that huge trailer to transport wood back to my pad, and use my 16' gooseneck dump to deliver like i do now. That huge dump trailer is 20x8x8. I could make the sides mostly wood to save weight. I'm not sure if a 3500 dually would pull it though, may need a f550 or dodge 5500.

I'm starting to get a little better at loading the wood. The ground is froze hard now so i'm not getting as much dirt in bucket, although a concrete pad would still work the best. I would like one in the future when funds are better.

Do you think the tandem dump trailer or grain truck would be better? I know i can get a dump trailer for around 8k so i'd have to find a grain truck with a dump that would lift 25k pounds. That huge dump trailer will hold almost 22 face cord, or 3 of my current loads.
 
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Well one little piece of input I can add is that the grapple arm with the bucket instead of the the log grapple wont be worth the effort with split wood. I have a grapple truck and it seemed like a great idea to use it to load from the piles. Problem is one piece of wood will nearly always catch in the mouth of the bucket stopping you from getting a full load in and allowing all pieces that aren't turned exactly right fall through. The one time i used it I ended up just loading the wood by hand into that grapple and using it to lift into the truck. Saved alot of my back but still time consuming. Wouldnt have done it had I not needed the volume of the truck to haul that particular load with. In my opinion the conveyor sounds best. Currently looking for one myself. Still havent tried the grapple bucket on the tractor yet. Just sold on the conveyor idea.
 
Well i have a rock grapple bucket all made up. I have $2500 into it, and its not working too well. View attachment 218483

I have this 66" rock bucket, and then had a single center mounted ram grapple welded on. My biggest problem is the wView attachment 218484

I'm loading slabwood, which tends to be a little smaller than normal cut/split wood. Anyway, i go into the pile and if i try to scoop up wood, my tires just spin. I have to angle bucket down and get under the pile, but then i get half a bucket full of dirt/mud. Any suggestions? I have a 7x16 dump trailer and it takes me 45mins to load with the skid steer, but i'm getting more dirt than i want and i think that 45mins is too long. Me and my brother were loading the trailer in about the same time by hand.

I pick up the wood 15 miles from my house, then stock pile around 30-50 loads throughout the year. this means i'd have to load and unload the wood, so loading it twice is a pain. Here are the options i can think of

Keep loading with skid steer

Any idea how long it would take to do it with a small conveyor? i know itd be the best way to load, but loading 50 loads a year by hand may get old. If i could load it in about 30 mins with a conveyor i'd prolly go that route.

a long shot and not sure how much itd cost. A grapple mounted to dump trailer, similar to a log grapple but with a bucket to pick up wood instead of a grapple used for logs. Idk how thatd work picking up wood, and idk how it would be mounted to the trailer. Just some thoughts.

A concrete pad would prolly work, but i would need 3-5 concrete pads, since i get the wood from 3-5 different saw mills and then would need my own concrete pad.


thanks for help


Can I suggest a modification?

First, technique. Don't try and dig in from the edge of the pile so much, try and back drag some loose stuff from the top with the grapple tips.

The bucket is good, but the side plate/webs, are getting in the way. Trim them out, and replace with a stout enough side plate shaped like a C from 1/2 plate. As well, add a flat plate across the tips of the grapple 60" wide by 16" high, making the closed grapple like more like a clam grip.

The grapple tips being two points, the splits just wiggle sideways, and dislodge the stuff already trying to nest in the bucket anyway.

I have Root Rake with C shaped bottom fingers spaced a full six to eight inches apart, and my grapple is just the two tips, just like yours. My Rake sides are open unlike the three webs on yours. I generally just go over the top and grapple from above, but I am not making production.

I could make mine grip a lot more material even if I fabricated a slip on 16" tall by 60" plate for the tips. Try it cheap with some lumber/plywood.

This is going to sounds crazier even-

Instead of the grapple, take your standard bucket and use it upside down in place of the grapple, now you would have a more clamshell like grapple. Especially if you have 66" on the Rake and 60" bucket, go ahead and leave the side webs in place.
 
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What bucket for a skid steer would be best for loading piles of cut slabwood, basically smaller firewood into my dump trailer? or a conveyaor? this pic is similar to a pile i will load into my dump trailer parked right next to the pile, currently i load by hand. My pile may be a little smaller. I was thinking maybe a grapple bucket with a mesh wire between the claws so small peices don't fall out. Also, i've seen a fork bucket with small tubes to get under the pile of wood. Idk if a conveyaor would work if i put it next to the pile and hand loaded onto conveyaor. My dump holds 6-8 face cord and i'm sick of doing it by hand. I load around 40 loads a year and use some and sell the rest. thank
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I use a set of brush forks to load my buddy's dump truck. The forks are about 9 inch a part and it dont take long to load three cord in his tandem. He said it was three cord. Might look in to that they slid right over my forks. I wish my customers wood buy slabs but they won't. They want no bark. Later
 
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I wish my customers wood buy slabs but they won't. They want no bark. Later

Back in the 1970s when we heated with wood, I used a lot of slabs until everybody got the idea and I couldn't find them any more. Sawmills were picked clean.

Now it seems that they are being chipped, probably going into pellets.

Ken
 
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Alot of the saw mills have a chipper and don't do slabwood. These are Amish so thats really the only exception. I see tractor trailers lined up at the mills for the chips.

I'm selling to the low end firewood buyers(craigslist) at a lower price as well. I was surprised by the amount of people that would burn slabwood. I sold around 400 face cord, and theres other guys in my area who sell the same if not more. Its good hardwood, just some peices are smaller and some have bark.

Anyway- My plan is too put a concrete pad at my house where i store the wood. This isn't bad for loading and works alright. Then i want to get 2 old grain trucks with HUGE dumpp boxes. I would need a 20 ton hoist, which some have. I would like a 18x8x10ft high box. I'm not worried about cops b/c i'm only going 10 miles and all are back roads that i can go 40 mph on.
 
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