Stihl MS391 with a 25 inch bar?

[bucknfeller]

I cut into a railroad spike last year in a big cherry tree along the edge of the woods here, it was completely ingrown. I guess someone had used them for steps to a deer stand. Found 4 more when I put it on the splitter, how it didn't kill the tree I have no idea. That sure got my attention!

 

[DSS]

I found about a foot of chain in the middle of a big elm a couple of years ago, there's pics on here someplace. Lag bolts, plant hangers, I got an ash last year with an extension cord directly through the middle.

I hate yard trees and fence line trees but they're free, how do you turn it down?

 

[roberte]

I found about a foot of chain in the middle of a big elm a couple of years ago, there's pics on here someplace. Lag bolts, plant hangers, I got an ash last year with an extension cord directly through the middle.

I hate yard trees and fence line trees but they're free, how do you turn it down?

Idk, I'm stumped.
But did you cut it with an 039 with a 25" bar? :greenchainsaw:

 

[DSS]

Idk, I'm stumped.

But did you cut it with an 039 with a 25" bar? :greenchainsaw:

Well......no. I can't see an 039 liking a 25" bar but to each his own.

 

[1dragon]

Not saying the 440 doesn't cut faster. It's just doesn't cut that much faster, certainly not $500 faster.

Well said Sir, that's the point I used a ton of words to try and get across.:msp_thumbup:

 

[bucknfeller]

Well said Sir, that's the point I used a ton of words to try and get across.:msp_thumbup:

I was just confused.

One minute it's:

I'd even put a well tuned MM'd 039 with a good RSC chain against a 044/440 any day with same bar length.

then a few pages later it's:

Not saying the 440 doesn't cut faster.

:dunno:

 

[Jon1212]

I was just confused.

One minute it's:




then a few pages later it's:





:dunno:

I "liked" this post, then I "unliked" it so I could "like" it again..................it's the only way I could figure out how to double "like" it. Ya' dig?

 

[bucknfeller]

I "liked" this post, then I "unliked" it so I could "like" it again..................it's the only way I could figure out how to double "like" it. Ya' dig?

I dig :cool2:

 

[SawTroll]

Well......no. I can't see an 039 liking a 25" bar but to each his own.

Exactly, but who really cares what those that has the stomac to run that so-called saw really put on it?

I had problems stopping laughing, after I picked up a MS390 at a dealer - it just felt like a bad joke, for being sold as a chainsaw.

 

[Jon1212]

Exactly, but who really cares what those that has the stomac to run that so-called saw really put on it?

Niko,
I will continue to like you, and I'll even consider you my friend, but you have to stop spreading all this hate for my dear sweet 390.

 

[turnkey4099]

It would pull it but wouldn't be too happy about it. It totally depends on if you plan on running a 25"er on it all the time or occasionally. If occasionally it would probably be ok. If all the time I wouldn't go with anything less then a 441.

Odd, ask for a 361 here (back when they were the hot thing), an you got a 25" bar. I have one and it pulls it just fine in Black Locust. Yes, I realize the thread is about a 391 but a 361 is smaller.

Harry K

 

[SawTroll]

Niko,
I will continue to like you, and I'll even consider you my friend, but you have to stop spreading all this hate for my dear sweet 390.

Sorry my friend, but that is not going to happen. :msp_wink:

 

[SawTroll]

Odd, ask for a 361 here (back when they were the hot thing), an you got a 25" bar. I have one and it pulls it just fine in Black Locust. Yes, I realize the thread is about a 391 but a 361 is smaller.

Harry K

The MS361 is a much higher quality saw, with more power - despite less cc.

 

[roostersgt]

I was just confused.

One minute it's:




then a few pages later it's:





:dunno:

You're only "confused" because you want to stir the pot. Try reading what I posted. Here, I'll bold it for you. It shouldn't be that confusing.

I'd even put a well tuned MM'd 039 with a good RSC chain against a 044/440 any day with same bar length. I have a few for comparison and there really isn't enough difference to brag about. Fact. One built better/more durable? Up for debate in my book.

"....really isn't enough difference" clearly means one cuts faster than the other, or do you not understand that? You guys really should find something better to do than parse my words. If you believe, or have noticed a big difference in cutting, great. I haven't. 64cc vs 70cc.

I noticed neither of you commented on the $144 NEW OEM Stihl 044 piston / cylinder kit I just bought, as easily as I stated I could. Remember that little go'round? Several of you gave me a hard time on it 2 short weeks ago when I posted I regularly get them for less than the AM kits that were being hawked. I'm too old to be jerking peoples chains. I don't lie and don't exaggerate. I like to offer opinion and share experience. If you disagree with something I've presented, fine. No problem.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261179356589?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

[bucknfeller]

You're only "confused" because you want to stir the pot. Try reading what I posted. Here, I'll bold it for you. It shouldn't be that confusing.

I'd even put a well tuned MM'd 039 with a good RSC chain against a 044/440 any day with same bar length. I have a few for comparison and there really isn't enough difference to brag about. Fact. One built better/more durable? Up for debate in my book.

"....really isn't enough difference" clearly means one cuts faster than the other, or do you not understand that? You guys really should find something better to do than parse my words. If you believe, or have noticed a big difference in cutting, great. I haven't. 64cc vs 70cc.

I noticed neither of you commented on the $144 NEW OEM Stihl 044 piston / cylinder kit I just bought, as easily as I stated I could. Remember that little go'round? Several of you gave me a hard time on it 2 short weeks ago when I posted I regularly get them for less than the AM kits that were being hawked. I'm too old to be jerking peoples chains. I don't lie and don't exaggerate. I like to offer opinion and share experience. If you disagree with something I've presented, fine. No problem.

Stihl Chainsaw Parts 044 Cylinder Piston Rings 1128 020 1226 | eBay

Sorry, but when you said you'd put your 390 against a 440 any day, to me that means you think they are in the same league, and believe one is just as fast as the other. Not stirring the pot here, just pointing out a little flip flopping :msp_biggrin: No big deal.

If the OEM kits are so easy to find why didn't you put one on the 039?

I have to say my experiences, even with AM cylinders, has been the 039's have performed well with a 25" bar, even in wet oak of 22"+. I just finished a 029 - 039 conversion (Chicom cylinder/piston) and am still convinced it works well enough. The one I just completed has only one tank of fuel, but seems to be more than capable of running that length bar with ease after a couple of cuts.

Just a couple weeks ago you said that Chicom stuff was junk, now they are performing well. :dunno:

 

[Jon1212]

You're only "confused" because you want to stir the pot. Try reading what I posted. Here, I'll bold it for you. It shouldn't be that confusing.

I'd even put a well tuned MM'd 039 with a good RSC chain against a 044/440 any day with same bar length. I have a few for comparison and there really isn't enough difference to brag about. Fact. One built better/more durable? Up for debate in my book.

"....really isn't enough difference" clearly means one cuts faster than the other, or do you not understand that? You guys really should find something better to do than parse my words. If you believe, or have noticed a big difference in cutting, great. I haven't. 64cc vs 70cc.

I noticed neither of you commented on the $144 NEW OEM Stihl 044 piston / cylinder kit I just bought, as easily as I stated I could. Remember that little go'round? Several of you gave me a hard time on it 2 short weeks ago when I posted I regularly get them for less than the AM kits that were being hawked. I'm too old to be jerking peoples chains. I don't lie and don't exaggerate. I like to offer opinion and share experience. If you disagree with something I've presented, fine. No problem.

Stihl Chainsaw Parts 044 Cylinder Piston Rings 1128 020 1226 | eBay

Hey, I like my MS 390. Especially after Randy Evans did a Woods Port, and muffler modification to it. I even run a 25" bar on it without complaint. As for aftermarket vs. oem, I have no opinion on the subject, because it is of no importance, nor interest to me.

So my position is thus, I agree the 039/390 is better than that perceived by its detractors, especially when modified it is a good "value" saw with not much ground to make up (when modified) compared the much more expensive Pro Grade saws near its class.

However what I take exception to, and grow weary of is your argumentative flip flopping (not the footwear). I came into this thread to support not only your position, but to show proof based off of the results of what can be done to the 039/390 to "wake it up", yet it turned into another "yeah huh", "nuh uh" thread. Largely fueled by you. I haven't gone back, and looked, but hopefully you haven't deleted any of your earlier posts, this time.

 

[Jon1212]

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Hey bucknfeller, check it out. We got some voyeurs peeping in on us.

 

[roostersgt]

In comparing the two saws, I don't see where I flipp-flopped. You may have misunderstood it. I said the difference I've noticed was "nothing to brag about". I use both models regularly, as in just yesterday in some 2 cords of 20"-22" wet oak laying on my side yard. Cut mostly pine in the 18-26" range with the same "close" results.

The Chi-Com units I've used, including the one I just finished, IMHO, do not compare to OEM, new or used. This one is no exception. Built 7 now. Without any port work, they're simply not as "snappy" in their response. They wind up slower. They'll still run within specs for the saw, and cut wood. That's my opinion based on 7 built saws, 3 of them Chi-com cylinder-ed. The disagreement before was about "pro" saw kits. The original guy didn't care that I found a boatload of OEM clam kits. On this past saw I lost 3-4 bids on 039 cylinders. They get snatched up quick when offered buy=it=now.

Haven't deleted anything. Havent used any !#$@#$, the only reason I deleted it last time. Why you would go to the trouble of copying internet tripe to repost is kind of troubling. How old are you? That you can't understand what I posted is your problem, not a flip flop, but even if it was, why can't you ignore it, or just let it go?

 

[bucknfeller]

Here's the notes from the feebay ad you plugged.

Condition:

New other (see details):

Seller Notes:

“Quality varies... some scratches due to being piled up on the shelf. Owner may have repackaged parts after equipment sat for more than allowed store policy where item/service was never paid for or picked up.”


That doesn't exactly give me a warm fuzzy fealing when I'm thinking of buying something.

I'll take my chances with an aftermarket kit from a reputable distributor who will stand behind it.

 

[roostersgt]

Seller has a lot of items listed from a closed shop. Generic description. Pics didn't look right to you? You're pretty tough to persuade. I doubt video of my saws cutting cookies would convince you either. You'd think something was staged.