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OK, so i concede that my fingers got COLD loading the OWB just now. Actually threw a few splits in at 5:30 and wasn't too bad, but filled it at 9:00 at -8° and had to come inside for a warm up. At that moment I was jealous of the woodstove owners.

So here I am, admitting that I'm contemplating the ultimate switch. Get ready for it...



It's time to get out the winter gloves! I love the rubber coated gloves I usually use if there is rain or wet snow, but they are not very thick. Snow at this temperature doesn't make for wet gloves very quickly so insulation is more important. Ain't NO way I'm giving up my OWB if you thought that's where I was going! :laugh:
 
Always trade offs...

Having only owned an IWB, I love it but still think about the potential to burn the house down in the event of chimney failure. Yeah it is a rare chance but still exists. And I do not have much storage capacity in my furnace room so only can stock in a day's worth of wood for those super cold days.

I like the larger capacity of the OWB so you can load two or three times a day and call it good. And on those cold days, spending a few minutes outside feeding the stove really makes you feel better versus sitting on the couch all weekend in the depth of winter.
 
Could never heat what I heat with one indoor stove unless it was a water boiler and the associated piping and costs. Too much square footage, 2 separate houses and domestic hot water. Put 6 sticks in the owb this morning along with a bunch more christmas paper and cardboard. Will likely put some in before dark tonight, takes a couple of minutes to do. I might even stack it half full and not bother loading it tomorrow. -12 C ( 10 F) right now and - 19 C (-2 F) tonight expected. I spend more time putting wood in the furnace in the shop than I do the OWB.
 
Don't need no points here. No electricity, no fans, no corrosion, no pumps, no freeze problems way less fuel used and likely less than 1/4 the cost. Year 15.

......and a very warm spot to gather when coming in out of the cold.
Hey, this was supposed to be a funny way to say I needed better gloves this morning, but if you really want to compare costs, your Jotul cost more than my entire system before you put any pipe on it. And no way it could heat MY house like the OWB - the layout just doesn't work.

For a guy with the quote in your signature you sure have a closed mind on OWB's - an answer that can't be questioned.
 
OK, so i concede that my fingers got COLD loading the OWB just now. Actually threw a few splits in at 5:30 and wasn't too bad, but filled it at 9:00 at -8° and had to come inside for a warm up. At that moment I was jealous of the woodstove owners.

So here I am, admitting that I'm contemplating the ultimate switch. Get ready for it...



It's time to get out the winter gloves! I love the rubber coated gloves I usually use if there is rain or wet snow, but they are not very thick. Snow at this temperature doesn't make for wet gloves very quickly so insulation is more important. Ain't NO way I'm giving up my OWB if you thought that's where I was going! :laugh:
Old Norwegian saying,"there is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes", Joe.
 
I wouldnt trade my IWB for a OWB if it was gave to me and installed for free, but thats just me. I know a few people that love their OWB and a few that hate them.. I got $300 in my stove and $60 in my heat exchanger water heater, and its 75f in the house right now. I do need another pair of gloves tho.
 
Other than its hard to work in 4 layers when it's -30*.
Good clothes doesn't mean lots of clothes. If you are working outside in -30 weather you must be wearing good clothes. If you are out in -30 and can't move, not so good clothes. But, I've never seen bad weather. I think the coldest I've seen was -10 and that was only for 1 day, Joe.
 
Indoor wood burner is a wheel barrow. Outdoor wood boiler is a tractor. 2 ways to the same end, a warm house.

Indoor wood burner can be run with wheel barrow type equipment, meaning hand tools.
Outdoor wood boiler needs tractor like equipment, meaning engine power.

You indoor guys should have to use hand tools only... :)
 
Good clothes doesn't mean lots of clothes. If you are working outside in -30 weather you must be wearing good clothes. If you are out in -30 and can't move, not so good clothes. But, I've never seen bad weather. I think the coldest I've seen was -10 and that was only for 1 day, Joe.
I have great winter clothes but rarely use them. Goose down Eddie Bauer parka and pants from back when Eddie Bauer sold real outdoor gear and not the stylish yuppie crap they sell nowadays. Good Lacrosse boots. Moose leather choppers with double thick wool liners. Beaver fur and felt lined bomber hat. And of course a good fleece gaiter to cover your face and neck. -30 is no problem at all provided you move around a bit.

Back in college I spent a cold winter weekend once in our old hunting cabin (a 1960's era mobile home). It was darn cold, to the point that stuff in the kitchen would freeze. But sleeping on the top bunk nearest the oil stove was comfortable. I barely got the snowmobile started on Saturday morning and rode to the end of the trail and put on snowshoes. Had a great morning out in the woods at -35 and I think it warmed up to -15 by afternoon. Sauna felt great that night.

Of course I would never use this deep cold gear for actual "work". ;) Snowmobiling, ice fishing, and snowshoeing only!

I usually cut wood in Carhartt gear. -15 is the coldest I've cut in and I had to unzip the jacket after an hour. Even at -5 I've ended up working in just bibs and a hoodie with no jacket.
 
-17 and white conditions the other day when I was cutting in the bush. Wind gust were a pain when trying to fall trees. Left the tractor running the whole time while I was cutting down and limbing trees. I keep it plugged in most of the winter, it starts without it but there is no use in trying to wreck stuff. Worked up a sweat and got a few trees yarded up. I was wearing my 2nd favorite 2 piece Tough Duck suit, my favorite 1 piece got put into the OWB last week. My wife says this one should join the 1 piece in the OWB. I'm going to start hiding it.
 
Indoor wood burner is a wheel barrow. Outdoor wood boiler is a tractor. 2 ways to the same end, a warm house.

Indoor wood burner can be run with wheel barrow type equipment, meaning hand tools.
Outdoor wood boiler needs tractor like equipment, meaning engine power.

You indoor guys should have to use hand tools only... :)
I use my JD gator to haul wood right inside the basement and park it close to the stove. No unloading until it goes in the stove. No stacking and restacking for me:havingarest:
 
Good clothes doesn't mean lots of clothes. If you are working outside in -30 weather you must be wearing good clothes. If you are out in -30 and can't move, not so good clothes. But, I've never seen bad weather. I think the coldest I've seen was -10 and that was only for 1 day, Joe.

I usually wear...

Top-
T shirt
Hoodie Sweatshirt
Another hoodie sweatshirt
Carharht coat

Bottom-
Long johns
Jean's
Carharht bibs

Baffin -60* steel toe boots
Bonnet hat (whatever you English call it)
Canvas insulated mittens.
Face mask

I've tried some of the "designer" cold weather gear (like Klim). It's fine, but very expensive and it's not designed to be used around fuel, grease, abrasions, etc so it doesn't last.
 
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