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Thank you sir.
The power puller I'm looking at has 25' amsteel on it. Can you tie knots in that stuff, I need a way to adjust the length easily or it's useless to me.

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That is pretty cool, but pretty pricey!

Maybe @MustangMike can weigh in on the Maasdam rope system. He did some nice rigging to direct a big 28" forked red elm when he helped me cut at the children's camp a few years ago.

I am old school, I still use chains and cables. LOL
 
I like the Maasdam Rope puller, and the rope they recommend for it at Bailey's. Very adjustable, and works very well. If you need to "lock" it after you tighten it, just wrap the rope.

Also, the rope gives some stretch, which is appreciated when working alone (like having someone who is still pulling).
 
Maybe MustangMike can weigh in on the Maasdam rope system.

There are some scale factors involved in the comparison.

The Maasdam rope puller is rated at 1,500 pounds:
https://www.baileysonline.com/maasdam-pow-r-pull-ratchet-rope-puller-3-4-ton-a-0-21700.html

The Amsteel puller is rated at 6,000 pounds:
https://www.baileysonline.com/3-ton-ratchet-puller-with-35-of-5-16-amsteel-blue-17435.html

Differences in cost, weight, the 'endless rope' feature on the Maasdam, etc. Depends on your applications.

Philbert
 
That is pretty cool, but pretty pricey!

Maybe @MustangMike can weigh in on the Maasdam rope system. He did some nice rigging to direct a big 28" forked red elm when he helped me cut at the children's camp a few years ago.

I am old school, I still use chains and cables. LOL
Not much:envy: in the grand scheme of things, insurance, a saw big enough to power through the cut on a tree this size, cost of hitting the house it's leaning towards:crazy2:. This one ain't a scrounge deal :envy::envy::envy::envy:, but I could swing by anytime and grab a round or two or even a log or two once it's down, I just need to drop and run on this one, he'll pick it apart he said(I think it will rot where it lies though ;)).

Masdaam is a great tool, and if I was looking to overcome a ft or two of lean it wouldn't be a big deal, what I need to do is to support the tree while it's falling so the hinge doesn't tear.
I like the Maasdam Rope puller, and the rope they recommend for it at Bailey's. Very adjustable, and works very well. If you need to "lock" it after you tighten it, just wrap the rope.

Also, the rope gives some stretch, which is appreciated when working alone (like having someone who is still pulling).
I like those for the continuous pull capabilities, and will probably get one someday, great tool to have. I have a remote controlled 12volt winch I could get into tight locations without access that I felt I wanted more than that, but for this one I want a heavy piece of equipment :muscle:.
I considered using this one and doubling back, but I don't think I have quite enough cable and the best place for the tractor is right where the tree would fall if the hinge failed :(.
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There are some scale factors involved in the comparison.

The Maasdam rope puller is rated at 1,500 pounds:
https://www.baileysonline.com/maasdam-pow-r-pull-ratchet-rope-puller-3-4-ton-a-0-21700.html

The Amsteel puller is rated at 6,000 pounds:
https://www.baileysonline.com/3-ton-ratchet-puller-with-35-of-5-16-amsteel-blue-17435.html

Differences in cost, weight, the 'endless rope' feature on the Maasdam, etc. Depends on your applications.

Philbert
That 6k is a dead lift with the line doubled, that's a lot of power :yes:, it's also more what I'm wanting/feel comfortable with this time around.
 
That 6k is a dead lift with the line doubled, . . .
I was comparing single line, straight pull. Have to look at the rope's working strength as well as the puller.

A powered winch is obviously an advantage where available, and with access.

Philbert
 
Not much:envy: in the grand scheme of things, insurance, a saw big enough to power through the cut on a tree this size, cost of hitting the house it's leaning towards:crazy2:. This one ain't a scrounge deal :envy::envy::envy::envy:, but I could swing by anytime and grab a round or two or even a log or two once it's down, I just need to drop and run on this one, he'll pick it apart he said(I think it will rot where it lies though ;)).

Masdaam is a great tool, and if I was looking to overcome a ft or two of lean it wouldn't be a big deal, what I need to do is to support the tree while it's falling so the hinge doesn't tear.

I like those for the continuous pull capabilities, and will probably get one someday, great tool to have. I have a remote controlled 12volt winch I could get into tight locations without access that I felt I wanted more than that, but for this one I want a heavy piece of equipment :muscle:.
I considered using this one and doubling back, but I don't think I have quite enough cable and the best place for the tractor is right where the tree would fall if the hinge failed :(.
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If it’s a paying job I totally understand reinvesting a portion of the profits into equipment. Should be good for many years.

@Philbert @MustangMike do rope systems have an expiration date? Wondering how long those ropes are good for if they are kept out of the sun and elements.
 
I looked at them before I got my grom. But theres not much off road riding to be done around here legally.
A number of our secondary gravel roads have been designated open for ATV/OHV use. The downside is it brings a lot more people in around my cabin because people can come from 15+ miles away. The upside is you can ride all day and never run out of places to go.
 
That 6k is a dead lift with the line doubled, that's a lot of power :yes:, it's also more what I'm wanting/feel comfortable with this time around.
When snatch blocks, pulleys, etc are involved I always worry about them failing, but I suppose if you are using new equipment and not hand me downs they are just as strong as the rest of the system.
 

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