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If you delve into the black art of blending 2Smoke oil & understand it( which I know a small amount) but I know a guy who fully understands the if's & but's, a chainsaw is not to high a power/performance wise in regard to available power due to design /components He used to be the head guy for a big oil company(oil blending) & now runs his own oil blending company for specialist oils ,his take re the ingredients in over the counter products are Ipone Samurai & Elf HTX975 as the 2 leading products but the likes/ dislikes mix amounts etc arguments will be ongoing my take now is I know what I use brand/amount if you are happy with what you use go for it
 
There are better oils available that turn the mix blue

Do they sound as cool as "saber" when you say them though?

Sometimes, since I'm a Michael Scott fan, I'll live dangerous and call it "sabrey"

There's no way any of the other blues could sound that cool
 
Love the smell of 927 in small doses, inhaling too much castor oil smoke will make you feel pretty sick to tour stomach.

I've still got a couple of old Maxima "Wake Up and Smell The 927" t-shirts. I use Klotz Benol these days because it's so affordable when we buy 55's of it. I personally think 927/Benol are equals.
Charles

I've even got one of these in my bathroom.
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Do they sound as cool as "saber" when you say them though?

Sometimes, since I'm a Michael Scott fan, I'll live dangerous and call it "sabrey"

There's no way any of the other blues could sound that cool
It might not sound so cool with an oil related saw failure & the company will not accept any responsibility, when you are relying on a product to make a living cool sounding names are irrelevant As far as I'm concerned if it's the best available they can call it any name they like but as far as our usage is concerned Amsoil will never fit that bill, but if you are happy with it go for it not being in or of the US who is Micheal Scott?
 
It might not sound so cool with an oil related saw failure & the company will not accept any responsibility, when you are relying on a product to make a living cool sounding names are irrelevant As far as I'm concerned if it's the best available they can call it any name they like but as far as our usage is concerned Amsoil will never fit that bill, but if you are happy with it go for it not being in or of the US who is Micheal Scott?

Good point. Oil choice is definitely important during the warranty period. Lots of dealers WILL test if an oil/fuel problem is suspected.
Charles
 
I use Valvoline 2stroke oil at 50:1 never had an issue, turns the gas blue and smells nice
 
It might not sound so cool with an oil related saw failure & the company will not accept any responsibility, when you are relying on a product to make a living cool sounding names are irrelevant As far as I'm concerned if it's the best available they can call it any name they like but as far as our usage is concerned Amsoil will never fit that bill, but if you are happy with it go for it not being in or of the US who is Micheal Scott?

Michael Scott is the incompetent manager of the Dunder Mifflin Paper Company. It's off to a fictional series called the office

I think my sarcasm was lost. I understand Folks Gotta make a living. This Thread is supposed to be light-hearted and fun. It wasn't to debate the merits of one oil versus the other. There are plenty of threads for that. I appreciate your input and have learned from it
 
R50 has incredible film strength, but I found it to not burn completely in the combustion process in saws, which is what you're seeing in the muffler. So I have moved to the middle ground with K2, with proper tune the muffler stay pretty darn clean @ 32:1
I don't notice much in the muffler on the 661 or 261, I'd assume those saws might run hotter and/or the baffles aid in retaining heat. Haven't noticed anything with the 171 but that saw still has less than 10 tanks I bet. I've used the **** out of the 193, I knew it'd be handy but damn.

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I don't notice much in the muffler on the 661 or 261, I'd assume those saws might run hotter and/or the baffles aid in retaining heat. Haven't noticed anything with the 171 but that saw still has less than 10 tanks I bet. I've used the **** out of the 193, I knew it'd be handy but damn.

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If you tune crisp it's not horrible, if the mufflers are stock they get nice and hot and tend to burn off much of the excess oil. With a real open muffler with some oils can drool out the port.
 
I've still got a couple of old Maxima "Wake Up and Smell The 927" t-shirts. I use Klotz Benol these days because it's so affordable when we buy 55's of it. I personally think 927/Benol are equals.
Charles

I've even got one of these in my bathroom.
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Never ran a full castor oil, just caster synthetic blends 927 and Super Techniplate. Super Techniplate makes a mess in a saw, 927 was much better, but still not really a work saw type of oil, maybe if you were milling and got things nice and hot. Castor oils do have their place.
 
Michael Scott is the incompetent manager of the Dunder Mifflin Paper Company. It's off to a fictional series called the office

I think my sarcasm was lost. I understand Folks Gotta make a living. This Thread is supposed to be light-hearted and fun. It wasn't to debate the merits of one oil versus the other. There are plenty of threads for that. I appreciate your input and have learned from it
Not a problem a strategic smiley face would make clear your intent
 
I bought it by the case for many years running. It is a very good oil for moto-bikes ridden hard. I prefer interceptor for enduro/trail riding.

I have been running Dominator in saws for a bunch of years too. I am on my last bottle.

It burns super clean in bikes at 30:1 but not as much in saws at 40:1 or so. I think I am going to try something else next..

I’m thinking motul 700, possibly 800 or Elf ( if I can find it). I found those oils good in bikes too, but not as easily available for me as the Amsoil.

I think the interceptor may be a better saw oil (than the Dominator), but it doesn’t colour the mix. I like my mix coloured.

Based on many teardowns (tops and bottoms) of many bikes using various oils over the years, I happen to like the Dominator quite a bit.

Bikes are not saws

FWIW.
 
Saber can be adjusted per ratio to the job and equipment at hand.

As stated previously by others I use it in Four Mix engines. Fine in stock or ported chainsaws. Tuned correctly and ratio set accordingly.

There are so many great oils out there AND so many poor oils. Experience supports success. I'll always be learning.
 
Whatever happened to all of the Amsoil and Klotz nutballs?
Did they lose their religon?
Thats ur response every time. I use amsoil because its worked well for me for as long as ive run power equipment, i can get it easily close to me for a decent price, and doesnt burn my eyes and nose when i run it through a backpack blower for 6-8 hours a day in spring and fall. Seems to burn fine in saws and weedwhips as well. I think it would be great if you would post useful info instead of being a prick all the time.
 
Thats ur response every time. I use amsoil because its worked well for me for as long as ive run power equipment, i can get it easily close to me for a decent price, and doesnt burn my eyes and nose when i run it through a backpack blower for 6-8 hours a day in spring and fall. Seems to burn fine in saws and weedwhips as well. I think it would be great if you would post useful info instead of being a prick all the time.
We found one!!!!!!
 

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