Partner Chainsaw Thread

[Huskvarna hotellgäst]

Thanks. Google has been less than helpful with these part numbers. Just a mass of useless info. One of the part numbers on the 16 inch almost matches up exactly with the one you linked on chainsawr so it should be ok.

That number looks like a Partner bar number so there's a good chance it is, even though I too couldn't find any references to it elsewhere. The critical dimensions are the slot width and length. I've attached a couple of excerpts from a GB catalog that might be helpful.

 

[peter92]

That number looks like a Partner bar number so there's a good chance it is, even though I too couldn't find any references to it elsewhere. The critical dimensions are the slot width and length. I've attached a couple of excerpts from a GB catalog that might be helpful.
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thank you very much forthat info , really app all the help, where are you in Aus , im QLD

 

[powerstroke73]

Found a few more saws locally as part of a package deal. The one with a chain brake was running. The rest he never tried, only used them as parts saws.

Trying to Identify them all. Top cover on the running saw has an R420 part number on it. Two others are R16 covers and one has "farmer" on it. With all the decals wore off, figuring out what they really are will be more difficult.

 

[Huskvarna hotellgäst]

thank you very much forthat info , really app all the help, where are you in Aus , im QLD

I'm in the city of Saint Dennis, aka Sydney.

 

[Huskvarna hotellgäst]

Found a few more saws locally as part of a package deal. The one with a chain brake was running. The rest he never tried, only used them as parts saws.

Trying to Identify them all. Top cover on the running saw has an R420 part number on it. Two others are R16 covers and one has "farmer" on it. With all the decals wore off, figuring out what they really are will be more difficult.

Sometimes interchangeabily of parts is not a feature

 

[powerstroke73]

Sometimes interchangeabily of parts is not a feature

Ain't that the truth. All these yellow cubes look the same! I took it apart a bit more last night, looking at part numbers. Trying to narrow it down a bit more.

 

[powerstroke73]

Maybe one of you fine folks could help me out.

The 1983 Partner 5000 I had picked up a while ago with the ignitron ignition died shortly after starting it up and won't run. She has no spark, even after replacing the plug.

Could this "brain box" be the culprit?

 

[Huskybill]

Check your on off switch.
Check your ignition wire.
Check connections.
How’s the coil on the flywheel tight.? Right gap.? Loose?

 

[peter92]

With out the decals how do you tell the diff between a P100 and R440 and PM 1000
is this a R440

 

[eKretz]

So I took a gamble on a saw that I hadn't heard of before and ended up here after googling it. It was advertised as a Partner R421, but I believe it's actually a 420. No markings left. I've read a considerable amount of this thread so far and that has helped with familiarization a lot, so thanks to all of you.

My saw sort of ran when I got it (seller demonstrated by pulling and starting but then the RPM just ran away) but the throttle linkage wasn't attached and the intake manifold was wobbly loose. I took off the carb, tightened the loose manifold, reattached the carb, reattached the linkage and BOY does this saw have some great power for an oldie. It absolutely loves to rev. I wasn't sure on the ID (except that it was NOT a 421 - no tube going from the exhaust to the handle) so I disassembled a bit looking for cast-in part numbers. Found those and the pull start housing at least matches a 420. Jug is Mahle and has the number 340930 cast into it. Intake port is divided and it has open transfers, exhaust is undivided.

From there I decided to just strip the whole thing down and give it a good cleaning, maybe remove the base gasket and a little port cleanup. After measuring I knew that the bore was definitely 48mm and stroke was 36mm, so it's 65cc. Domed piston. Another notch toward 420. The piston and cylinder are in fantastic shape, hone marks are still visible in the cylinder. So far very happy with the buy overall. Especially since I only paid $35! Should be a good little user saw.

 

[Huskybill]

R420,,,,http://acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/e...0134b92f5cec7f8c88256afd004cc781?OpenDocument

Warning collecting partner saws can be habit forming. No one really collects them so there not in demand. Plus there priced cheap. The down side is finding parts.

 

[Huskybill]

With out the decals how do you tell the diff between a P100 and R440 and PM 1000
is this a R440

I probably have more than 6 partner toaster saws and some are unmarked I have no clue as to telling what model they are. Some have a tiny cylinder I think it’s 55 cc.

I’m thinking to pull the muffler and use a caliper to guess the bore size.

 

[peter92]

R420,,,,http://acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/e...0134b92f5cec7f8c88256afd004cc781?OpenDocument

any ideas , if i change the diaphrams do i need to reset that screw on top of it

 

[Huskybill]

With out the decals how do you tell the diff between a P100 and R440 and PM 1000
is this a R440

She has a comp release plus the cylinder is larger than the ones I have.

 

[powerstroke73]

Check your on off switch.
Check your ignition wire.
Check connections.
How’s the coil on the flywheel tight.? Right gap.? Loose?

Wires are connections seem to be good. I may replace the wire on the off switch anyways as it is very brittle. I had thought it was the coils at first, and took it to my old man. He knows more than I and after looking at it all the only thing he thinks it could be is the module.

 

[Huskvarna hotellgäst]

Maybe one of you fine folks could help me out.

The 1983 Partner 5000 I had picked up a while ago with the ignitron ignition died shortly after starting it up and won't run. She has no spark, even after replacing the plug.
Could this "brain box" be the culprit?

I would've thought that there's no way an '83 5000 should have an Ignitron module.
Anyway, I checked in the back corner of my mind and I think any newer EMAB one-piece ignition from a 500, 5000 (or Husky 50, 51, 55, 154, etc) should drop in with the same flywheel. A 400 ignition would also work but the HT lead will likely have been trimmed shorter.
If you're in doubt about where the fault lies and your other 5000 has an EMAB igntion, you could swap it in and see.

Just found this thread https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...55-ignition-diy-ignitron.279214/#post-5347536

 

[Huskvarna hotellgäst]

With out the decals how do you tell the diff between a P100 and R440 and PM 1000
is this a R440

A few clues.

I think the Mac 1000 is painted a lighter yellow.

Fuel tank vent
R440: on side ear the the filler cap.
P100: on the top on the flywheel side

Choke/carburetor
R440: Tickler pushes down on diaphragm
P100: No tickler

Ignition
R440: points/coil
R440T & P100: Thyristor Electronic

 

[powerstroke73]

I would've thought that there's no way an '83 5000 should have an Ignitron module.
Anyway, I checked in the back corner of my mind and I think any newer EMAB one-piece ignition from a 500, 5000 (or Husky 50, 51, 55, 154, etc) should drop in with the same flywheel. A 400 ignition would also work but the HT lead will likely have been trimmed shorter.
If you're in doubt about where the fault lies and your other 5000 has an EMAB igntion, you could swap it in and see.

Just found this thread https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...55-ignition-diy-ignitron.279214/#post-5347536

Thanks for that information. The serial number on it is 3012653.. so should be an 83 i believe. After reading that thread, I am going to give the husky coil a try. Seemed to fix the fellas problem and they are fairly inexpensive online.

 

[eKretz]

R420,,,,http://acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/e...0134b92f5cec7f8c88256afd004cc781?OpenDocument

Warning collecting partner saws can be habit forming. No one really collects them so there not in demand. Plus there priced cheap. The down side is finding parts.

Yes I'm beginning to see that, thanks! I'm sort of surprised that they don't have more of a following.

 

[peter92]

A few clues.

I think the Mac 1000 is painted a lighter yellow.

Fuel tank vent
R440: on side ear the the filler cap.
P100: on the top on the flywheel side

Choke/carburetor
R440: Tickler pushes down on diaphragm
P100: No tickler

Ignition
R440: points/coil
R440T & P100: Thyristor Electronic

thanks very much for that , helps a lot