Amsoil sabor or sthil ultra for hard working saws

[full chizel]

The old XP or the new XP+?

 

[ammoaddict]

I used to use the old Husqvarna oil, before they came out with the xp. It was very very dirty. Lots and lots and lots of carbon.

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[svk]

The old XP or the new XP+?

Whatever is in they grey bottle.

 

[Andyshine77]

Whatever is in they grey bottle.

I believe the XP+ is a new version, hopefully better than the old stuff, which seems to make things gummy.

 

[svk]

I believe the XP+ is a new version, hopefully better than the old stuff, which seems to make things gummy.

What year did they make the switch?

 

[Huskybill]

On you tube there’s a west coast logger there hotsaws101, he recommends belray for stock saws and motul 800 for modded saws. He’s tested most brands of oil for engine life and carbon build up.

 

[Andyshine77]

On you tube there’s a west coast logger there hotsaws101, he recommends belray for stock saws and motul 800 for modded saws. He’s tested most brands of oil for engine life and carbon build up.

After dealing with that joker I wouldn't put much faith in what he says, lying pos in my book.[emoji44] It takes a lot for me to say that in an open forum these days.

The oil was updated a little over a year ago.

 

[svk]

On you tube there’s a west coast logger there hotsaws101, he recommends belray for stock saws and motul 800 for modded saws. He’s tested most brands of oil for engine life and carbon build up.

Which Belray?

 

[svk]

After dealing with that joker I wouldn't put much faith in what he says, lying pos in my book.[emoji44] It takes a lot for me to say that in an open forum these days.

Interesting, I know he was on here a long time ago but never followed him at the time.

You are a straight shooter in my book, so for you to say that there must have been some really bad stuff!

 

[Andyshine77]

Which Belray?

H1R doesn't work well in saws in my and many others experience, you have to tune rich to compensate for incomplete combination. Oils like it and 800 provide excellent protection in extrean use like milling, but won't burn well in other saw applications.[emoji111]

 

[Andyshine77]

Interesting, I know he was on here a long time ago but never followed him at the time.

You are a straight shooter in my book, so for you to say that there must have been some really bad stuff!

He's nuts. But he does seem to be a good faller, and I hear his expensive a hell saws do run pretty good. But again he's nuts lol.[emoji111]

 

[Brushwacker]

Here's what happens when you run Stihl Ultra.
I've seen this a number of times.
The carbon isn't the worst part. It wouldn't run because low compression, it blew 90 pounds on my gauge. You can see the gap between the ring land and the bottom of the ring... it wore the ring out.
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I bet the operater never cleaned his air filter. Besides all the carbon build up, probably sucked in some fines through the air filter trying to breath.

 

[Brushwacker]

if this was directed to me ...
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How much does that cost and where can one buy it?

 

[9050lx]

Used to run synthetic Klotz in a Yamaha 350 twin in the 70's. Ended my fouling problems, Ran pretty clean.No troubles.

 

[Andyshine77]

You do not want to run Klotz ST in a chainsaw, it makes a mess fast.

 

[full chizel]

I wouldn’t use Super Techniplate in a saw because of the castor in it. If you want to use Klotz i’d use the Original Techniplate.

 

[Stihl 041S]

Mobile 1

 

[Justin Taylor]

Ohhh no don’t Bring this fight back that I started

 

[Brushwacker]

I wouldn’t use Super Techniplate in a saw because of the castor in it. If you want to use Klotz i’d use the Original Techniplate.

20% i wouldn't think would hurt more then it would help a hard working chainsaw.
I ran motocross bikes 15 or 16 to 1 on castrol 2 cycle in the late 70's. Most the riders i heard where using much leaner ratio synthetic mixes and reringing their bikes in 2 or 3 race intervals. Mine ran strong all year and never had any top end issues . Not enough carbon that i thought much about it other then clean out what is there when i took it apart once a year when i replaced the rings it didn't need replaced.

 

[Andyshine77]

20% i wouldn't think would hurt more then it would help a hard working chainsaw.
I ran motocross bikes 15 or 16 to 1 on castrol 2 cycle in the late 70's. Most the riders i heard where using much leaner ratio synthetic mixes and reringing their bikes in 2 or 3 race intervals. Mine ran strong all year and never had any top end issues . Not enough carbon that i thought much about it other then clean out what is there when i took it apart once a year when i replaced the rings it didn't need replaced.

Chainsaws are not motocross bikes. Klotz ST causes large amounts of buildup almost immediately in a saw.[emoji111]