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When I first started I had a set-up much like yours but I had a 1/2 ton chevy (which is like a f-350:D ). To unload chips easier we put a old pallet in the back of the truck standing up on the back wall with a rope tied to it. We would back up to a tree or another truck tie the rope and pull the truck foward, the pallet would take pull most of the chips the rest would be lose and easy to get out. try it it worked for us best of all it is cheap:D

Later Mike
 
I've done the same unloading trick, 'cept we used an old tire-it holds up better. Works great as long as there is a tree to tie to!
 
Hey Yukon, do I have the truck for you! About 6 months ago, I found a one-owner F350, dually, with a 12' flatbed w/ stake pockets (you can build any size sides you want) with a Powerstroke diesel. I was all set to go into business, but the business I was buying didn't workout. Anyway, take a truck like this, and put a dump kit on it (around $1500) and you're set.

Randy
 
with a 12ft chip box a 1 ton truck would be way over loaded. one would have constant white knuckles trying to stop it. over kill is always better. there are plenty of 6500 series and f600 mason dumps around that lend themselves to decent chipper trucks. you can pick up a med duty truck for almost the same price as a 3500 series.
 
Yukon, Have I got the answer for you.
We started off with almost the same set-up, except a 3/4 ton with beefed up springs...

Get an EZ dump, it's a roll out tarp the hooks to the tailgate, You can roll out almost a full box load, take the tarp all the way up to the front and then straight up, it works better then forking out the whole load. Don't get me wrong, it's not as nice as a dump but it's about 60 bucks and it will get you satred and save your back till you can make enought to buy the dump box.
 
I own the "unloader" it works real well and I use it nearly every day. I have unloaded a 2100 lb weighed on the scale load in 30 sec. flat. I use a heavy half ton chevy with overload springs. The only problem with loads over 1700 lbs is the truck doesn't steer well and wants to meander all over the road and you better not go over 25 mph. So, I don't load that heavy. The only problem with the "unloader" is that nothing can snag on the sides of the truck or it just won't unload.
 
Poor man's unloader

Here's an ideal beginners rig. The 'dump' mechanism is a conveyor floor on a bed of industrial rollers, allowing you to spill off your mulch as little or as much as you like, rather than a mountain all at once. A side panel door opens up to expose your tool arsenal / maintenance area. The wide, tall door also acts as a protective rain cover (not to mention shade), allowing you eat, make calls or perform upkeep on your saws even when it's pouring out. The 'roof' to this thing extends from the back bumper all the way over top of the cab to the front bumper where it is supported. There is a swingarm 'crane' (though I really hesitate to call it that) onto which you can rig a 2:1 or 3:1 pully system to do occasional lifts. The entire system is affixed to the flatbed of any 3/4 ton or better flatbed pickup with 6 fatty bolts and front bumper supports. This has been a really great system for me, despite what limitations it has (like a huge chip capacity).
 
chip unloader

Here's a shot of the conveyor unloader, prior to the conveyor belt installation. Underneath there's storage for the tires and plywood, and a pullout area for long tools, forks, shovels, chains, etc. Not shown in this picture is the 8" diameter PVC tube and end cap to hold up to a dozen pole extensions and pruner head. Very adequate system adaptable to almost any flatbed (mine being a 1979 chevy 3/4 ton).

-TM-
 
Try going here for the cheapest and easiest way to unload your truck. www.loadhandler.com I have had mine for 5 years and haven't worn it out yet. I unload brush and trees a couple times a week. It only takes about a minute to put it on or take it off.
 
loadhandler

That's the one, with a crank to unload. Ford's new line up of F150's, 2004, are going to be able to handle more than the old ones but you still need a one ton or more for the tree work you discribe. good start though.
 
truck set up

Hey bro,thats not to bad here in England we are plagued buy gypsies who knock on peoples doors looking for tree work.Chippers are a rarity with these blokes although I once saw a chipper tied to the deck of a 14ton truck and the chip was blown into what looked like part of an army tent.The feed tray was so high the groundie was throwing the brush in like javlins.As for H&S these blokes live in trailers and deal in cash.
 
with a 12ft chip box a 1 ton truck would be way over loaded.
I don't think it would be way overloaded... I've hauled 12-14+ yards of bark mulch in Super Duty F350's with 14 foot beds, GVWR ~11k. You can tell you have a load on, and don't try to stop on a dime, but it'll do it. One problem you will run into though is making sure the hydraulic pump is big enough to raise the bed. Get the biggest pump you can afford!

Something that I have yet to see mentioned and should be in the back of your mind as you grow is proper driver licensing. I don't know what it is in other states, but here in Indiana, you need a class A CDL for combinations over 26,001 lbs (If your trailer is over 10K, or the truck is over 26K). You also need a chauffeur's license at a certain point too, but I don't remember what that is. I know if you take a 1 ton and put a 7k+ trailer on it, you need a chauffer's license, IF the combination is being used for commercial use.


Dan
 
The Joy of Being Poor

I

Let others sing of gold and gear, the joy of being rich;
But oh, the days when I was poor, a vagrant in a ditch!
When every dawn was like a gem, so radiant and rare,
And I had but a single coat, and not a single care;
When I would feast right royally on bacon, bread and beer,
And dig into a stack of hay and doze like any peer;
When I would wash beside a brook my solitary shirt,
And though it dried upon my back I never took a hurt;
When I went romping down the road contemptuous of care,
And slapped Adventure on the back -- by Gad! we were a pair;
When, though my pockets lacked a coin, and though my coat was old,
The largess of the stars was mine, and all the sunset gold;
When time was only made for fools, and free as air was I,
And hard I hit and hard I lived beneath the open sky;
When all the roads were one to me, and each had its allure . . .
Ye Gods! these were the happy days, the days when I was poor.

II

Or else, again, old pal of mine, do you recall the times
You struggled with your storyettes, I wrestled with my rhymes;
Oh, we were happy, were we not? -- we used to live so "high"
(A little bit of broken roof between us and the sky);
Upon the forge of art we toiled with hammer and with tongs;
You told me all your rippling yarns, I sang to you my songs.
Our hats were frayed, our jackets patched, our boots were down at heel,
But oh, the happy men were we, although we lacked a meal.
And if I sold a bit of rhyme, or if you placed a tale,
What feasts we had of tenderloins and apple-tarts and ale!
And yet how often we would dine as cheerful as you please,
Beside our little friendly fire on coffee, bread and cheese.
We lived upon the ragged edge, and grub was never sure,
But oh, these were the happy days, the days when we were poor.

III

Alas! old man, we're wealthy now, it's sad beyond a doubt;
We cannot dodge prosperity, success has found us out.
Your eye is very dull and drear, my brow is creased with care,
We realize how hard it is to be a millionaire.
The burden's heavy on our backs -- you're thinking of your rents,
I'm worrying if I'll invest in five or six per cents.
We've limousines, and marble halls, and flunkeys by the score,
We play the part . . . but say, old chap, oh, isn't it a bore?
We work like slaves, we eat too much, we put on evening dress;
We've everything a man can want, I think . . . but happiness.
Come, let us sneak away, old chum; forget that we are rich,
And earn an honest appetite, and scratch an honest itch.
Let's be two jolly garreteers, up seven flights of stairs,
And wear old clothes and just pretend we aren't millionaires;
And wonder how we'll pay the rent, and scribble ream on ream,
And sup on sausages and tea, and laugh and loaf and dream.

And when we're tired of that, my friend, oh, you will come with me;
And we will seek the sunlit roads that lie beside the sea.
We'll know the joy the gipsy knows, the freedom nothing mars,
The golden treasure-gates of dawn, the mintage of the stars.
We'll smoke our pipes and watch the pot, and feed the crackling fire,
And sing like two old jolly boys, and dance to heart's desire;
We'll climb the hill and ford the brook and camp upon the moor . . .
Old chap, let's haste, I'm mad to taste the Joy of Being Poor.



--- Robert Service
 
well i started with a 1/2 ton van known as a ford escort van the brits on here will know just how small it is [no chipper no trailer].. + a ladder ,bow saw ,set of loppers and a few hand tools ,and not a clue about tree work /arboriculture .full stop..but i do have a bit of drive in me and i hate to be defeated or be a lousy tradesman..in time over a good few many years and ''no holidays and few luxurys '' i managed over the weeks ,months, years to gain just about all the necessary equipmant needed for this biz ,dump trucks ,chippers,dump trailers ,stump grinders.decay detectors .saws rigging gear basicly without trying to sound a bloody big head we have got the lot although im only a small biz,oh plus i got some good training along the way..


anyway what im trying to say is if a bottom of the class dyslexic like me can do it anyone can with a bit of hard yakker!!!..[AUSSIE SPEAK FOR WORK]


GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE GUYS OUT THERE WHO ARE DOING THERE BEST:D :D ..IN A HARD WORLD
 
Originally posted by YUKON 659
MasterBlaster, unfortunately it's only a F150 and it doesn't dump, a real PITA to empty. That's where my 2 boys come in.....young and strong backs :D Hopefully next year there will be a 1 ton dump in the works.
Stumper, the chipper is a Bandit 65 with a 35 hp Wisconsin. It has it's pros and cons. It would be nice to have a larger chipper but this one does a good job for now.

Jeff

If you want to move to larger chipper, I'd be interested in that one. Yes!

Jack
 
Chippers in small companies are kinda rare down these ways, a new chipper starts at 30,000 and second hand your more likely to find a politician you can trust. THere are companies that have been running 10 years and not got a chipper, just a trailer. I couldnt before imagine getting one for a couple more years.

I FN hate pikies! Go the escort!

I have a chipper coming in Sept that I brought off Marky Mark, I have to say that Mark went above and beyond to get this sent to me. I cant thank him enough for the effort he put in.
 
Did you find an alternative to standard shipping rates to get it there Timber?

Oakwilt
 
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