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Yea and all the new cars are crap and break after a year. Electronics dont belong in a saw. Dissapointed. More complexity to something that should stay simple

Agreed, the MS 660 is proven over and over.. M tronic crap doesnt belong in the woods, refuse to buy any M tronic stihls. The rescue teams still use MS 461's without electronic components in it fully adjustable carb. Still havnt seen a logger back up the M tronic systems

I run 25 on mine its a raped ape

I run a 25" tuned up on my stihl, bought in Oregon, absolutely a raped ape on oak and pine, 026 pro with 25" greatest saw i have, husky with 28" when i want to cut rounds for hours on end without stopping.