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I think in both cases its a "QUALITY" ISSUE. Stihl i would think they would not want it to get around they make sh*tty saws don't back what they make workmanship and material even when it is out of warranty and is beyond what you would find without tearing the saw apart.

Don't drink the koolaid!!! Stihl is gold plated hype! I had the 290 farm boss and the thing if you run it out of fule when using it your going to have a bit*h to restart it. Told the dealership about the probelem and his answer was "Well don't run it out of fule" Was not the answer i was...

Was a casting flaw right from the factory if you look at the dirty part its been an on going crack for as long as the saw has been made! The dirty part tells the real story its old and shows gas n oil leakage going on for a very long time and over the life of the saw it just kept growing the...

Good point watch for the shipping charges and figure that into your bid and dont get into a pissing contest with another buyer bid on the one you like in the last few seconds like 10 seconds give it your best bid and then cross your fingers and do not fall in love with the item and know what it...

Ebay will fight for you if they try to screw you on a saw If missrepresent the item you can contact ebay and paypal will go to bat for you and make the other selling party pay up if your claim is on the up n up!

You can use refractory cement Most good stove shops or brick yards sell the fire brick and the cement to stick them together Here in Minnesota Coring-Donahiew <spelling? in Saint Paul sell the stuff its spendy but fireproof when set up. I have used it in setting tiles in chimineys made from...

Yup I feel that same way about both the gold dipped hype for Stihl not so much for Husky I had one of the turds 290 Stihl and could not be happier than to see it leave my next door neighbor is still sipping the Stihl Kool aid. I bought a CS 600p in its place Easy start good strong runner and...

Search Creags list in your area Lots of deals on Creags list give that and ebay a try. My self i am an Echo man love there saws and there all pro grade saws

Not on the list but i use a Echo cs 600p Great saw pro grade well made and cuts with the best of them. use a 24" bar with no probelem at all

Echo cs 600p Echo is the saw i like the most out of them all! Starteasilyly runs good and is long lasting easy to maintain, and can handle a 24" bar easy lots of power straight forward engineering and all Echo saws are pro grade non of the guess the magic number for consumer grade or pro...

amen brother!

Don't do it! I stupidly drank the Kool aid and got a Stihl 290 farm boss and sold my Johnsrude to a friend, most regretted thing I ever done! The Stihl was super hard to start when you run it out fuel it will not start for sower ####. It has no prime blub and could sure use one, when i...

Well for my money i could not wait to get rid of the Stihl had the farm boss and it waimposablele to restart after you run out ofuelle has no perg valve so your screwed into pulling and pulling over n over for then next 20 Min'sns to get it firing again. Stihl is gold dipped hype. Echo all...