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  1. motolife313

    motolife313 ArboristSite Guru

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    I seen guys using a elasto but not sure which saw to get it off. Any help would be nice thanks! Not sure the year on the saw. Maybe mid 90’s any guesses? Pic isn’t loading well
     
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    Use an elasto start on my 064 generic size

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    Where did u get it? Stihl says there discontinued on the 064. I didn’t ask about the elasto.

    So all the elasto are the same size ?
     
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    Any handle off of anything from an 044/440 and up should fit. My dealer stocks the elsto handles on the shelf, there isn't anything saw specific about the pull start handle/rope as long as the rope fits through the hole in the cover and winds smoothly on the reel. Lots of guys get the old snowmobile D handles and put them on bigger saws so they can get a good grip when starting it.
     
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    The starter rope size that is on the 044 and bigger saws is 3.5mm, that size, either in an elasto or standard handle will work in your 064 stater housing.
     
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    Stihl’s Rescue “D” handle is like $6........
     
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    064AV 1986-1997
    ElastoStart 1122-190-3400 4.5 mm
     
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    Thanks. Here it is D86D5E49-E26F-4D24-82A1-78915044BF2B.jpeg
     
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    An 064 AV that is in good shape, like mine is, has huge compression. These were sold before the Elasto-Start handle and cord was invented. There is no decomp valve on these saws. So, it's a bear to start. I can do it, even at my age, but only if I pull a few times slowly while cold to get it ready. Jerking the handle when cold does not work. That will also wreck an Elasto-Start and make you wish that your fingers were made of iron. So, you must have some patience with them.

    But, when they do start, this saw is an animal. They remind me of a Bengal tiger that has just been released by accident from a zoo.
     
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    motolife313 ArboristSite Guru

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    Found one for a 441 in stock for 26$ 4.5 mm cord. I’ll take mine off and check the length.
     
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    You can put on a decomp!!!!!!
    A bit of machining true.........
    And the Rescue handle helps.
    Pushing 70 here so I understand. Lol
     
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    If the elasto start doesn't hold up, just get a regular Stihl starter handle and 36" of 4.5mm Stihl or competent starter cord.
     
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    That happens and is fixable unless the spring broke.

    That’s an OEM recoil spring, yes. Consult ipl to confirm part #, but it is 1122.
     
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    Not sure what ipl is but I did buy it, thanks. It does say 1122 on the part on eBay. Couldn’t find the number on the spring.
     
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    Illustrated Parts List

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    17$ through stihl but not in stock. It’s in chehalis at the warehouse and take 7-10 days. I paid 18$ on eBay it will be at my mailbox by the 19th
     
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    They can be rewound, hook the end of the spring in the rewind housing and wrap it to the inside, in the housing, when it's all wound back up, put the recoil pulley back on, line up the end of the spring in the pulley. Put all the retaining hardware back on, wind it up, put the rope in.
     
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