ArboristSite.com Sponsors
 
 


70+CC saw recommendations

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by Lucero, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Lucero

    Lucero Rnnngg Rnnnnngggggggg

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2018
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    40
    Location:
    Australia
    Have just purchased our first house (no more renting!) out in regional Victoria, Australia - Kinglake for any Aussie’s who are interested.

    The house has a huge Woodfire Coonawarra & open fire for heating. This means I’ll be out cutting some decent logs to keep us warm all winter (approx 300/400mm in diameter)

    I’m looking for quality & ease of service (do it all myself). I’ve owned both stihl & husky saws previously. However don’t want any auto tuning saws.

    I’m thinking I could use this as an excuse to buy a 372 however I’m a chippy by trade and would also love to setup my own Alaskan Mill to slab some timber for table tops in the future & don’t particularly want to have to buy another saw only for that application. Hoping to kill 2 birds with one chain.

    Looking forward to hearing your input,
    Cheers!
     
    Jacob J. and farmer steve like this.
  2. cuinrearview

    cuinrearview Red saw lover

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2014
    Messages:
    6,129
    Likes Received:
    10,576
    Location:
    Hillsdale, MI
    For milling, the bigger the better. I'd buy the biggest powerhead you can swing pricewise. That said, having a 100+cc powerhead as a one saw plan is not ideal. I guess it depends on how often you think you'll wind up milling. A 390/395 or a carbed 661 would probably be a good setup for large tree bucking and occasional milling.
     
  3. U&A

    U&A Addicted to ArboristSite

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2016
    Messages:
    1,156
    Likes Received:
    3,930
    Location:
    Michigan
    Because of experience level.....I’ve never been fond of recommending saws to anybody that I don’t personally know but.....

    How in shape are you?

    If you are truly in good shape you can do a 395 all day and still use it for some milling. “One saw” plan is never the best option but if that’s what you have to do then I probably shoot for 395 or possibly a 390. Or the Stihl equivalents

    If you are concerned about weight
    AND you want to mill AND fall trees.... your going to want 2 saws. If you’re not used to it the heavy saws will kick your ass.



    JMO

    I’m no expert


    Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM
     
  4. gary courtney

    gary courtney eeny meeny miny moe

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    4,870
    Likes Received:
    12,674
    Location:
    downtown possumtrot
    461,660-462,661
     
  5. Andyshine77

    Andyshine77 Addicted to ArboristSite

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,739
    Likes Received:
    6,910
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH
    Remember he said no Auto tuning saws.

    Sounds like you need a Husqvarna 390 or maybe a 395. The Stihl option would be a 461, or non AT 661 if they have them. The 462 with a regular carb will be a little small for your intended use.
     
  6. JeremiahJohnson

    JeremiahJohnson Redneck Chainsaw Repair

    Joined:
    May 11, 2012
    Messages:
    6,402
    Likes Received:
    6,513
    Location:
    Ohio
    Over your way take a look at a makita dolmar 7910 for 79cc. Dont know if you have the makita dolmar 9010 over there. Just some other options.
    Folks I knew that way told me they are little cheaper to buy there too.
     
    James Miller and cuinrearview like this.
  7. Yotaismygame

    Yotaismygame Juiced Saws #GetJuiced

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2017
    Messages:
    1,045
    Likes Received:
    759
    Location:
    Orgone
    I’ll have a mint ported 7900 here soon that will be for sale. Never shipped over seas but I’m not against it.
     
    MattinMI and rarefish383 like this.
  8. Tinman204

    Tinman204 ArboristSite Operative

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    368
    Likes Received:
    463
    Location:
    Manitoba
    If you're looking for a 70cc class saw then a 372 is about as good as you're going to get. I still dont have one but I do have a 365 and its a great saw.

    If you are of the more stihl persuasion then a 044, 440 or 441 would be a good place to be. I just finnished an 044 build and I will say its quickly becoming my go to saw, its so light and has power very close to my 576xp.

    If you dont mind a bit more weight then a 372 then a 576 xp is a great saw. Thats my "big saw" and its smooth and has tons of power.

    I don't mill but I have a buddy that does. His thoughts echo what others have said here, the biggerthe powerhead the better.

    He mills with a 394, 395, 298 and a pair of ms 880s. He said the 395 is his preferred milling saw.

    I'm a big guy, 6'3", 265lbs and work construction all day wearing a 40lb tool belt and I wouldnt want to run a 395 all day.

    Its not that I couldnt handle a 395 but I find the heavier the saw the more tired I get especially when its hot. Being tired is a bad thing when you have a 100cc beast in your hands.
     
  9. andy at clover

    andy at clover Woods!

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2018
    Messages:
    831
    Likes Received:
    873
    Location:
    PNW
    Milling AU hardwoods?
    Unless you’re only looking to mill small diameters, 70cc is goingvto be super marginal.
    I use 120cc for PNW softwoods. (3120)
    Consider the oiler not just the cubes for milling.
    Any saw should be able to oil a 36” bar without any trouble.... you may still need an aux oiler for the tip of the mill (downhill side of bar).
    I fall /buck with a 441 and mill with the 3120.... it’s a nice combo... originally a bit rich for m need but now it rocks.


    Check out BobL’s posts in the milling section.
    He’s out in your continent milling native trees.
     
    U&A likes this.
  10. cuinrearview

    cuinrearview Red saw lover

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2014
    Messages:
    6,129
    Likes Received:
    10,576
    Location:
    Hillsdale, MI
    For some reason I got my metric to 'murican mixed up. If your milling will be the same diameter(up to 16") logs I think any of the 70-80cc suggestions would suffice. But then again you mentioned table tops so wood that width would require a much larger bar and powerhead. Really, to perform both of the tasks you've laid out effectively, two different saw sizes are needed.
     
    James Miller likes this.
  11. Huskvarna hotellgäst

    Huskvarna hotellgäst ArboristSite Operative

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2019
    Messages:
    423
    Likes Received:
    329
    Location:
    Australia
    Lucero and cuinrearview like this.
  12. Haironyourchest

    Haironyourchest ArboristSite Operative

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2015
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    862
    Location:
    Ireland
    The Stihl 440 to 660 series and the newer variants 441, 461, 661, all use the same oil pump, which can be upgraded to the high output model. Open to correction, but I think that's right. My 441 with the high output oiler runs out as the petol runs out, or just a bit later. Also the newer stihls have super heavy duty air filters, which apparently are popular in Australia.
     
  13. andy at clover

    andy at clover Woods!

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2018
    Messages:
    831
    Likes Received:
    873
    Location:
    PNW
    I think you're correct.
    My 441 is the the "R" version which has the "wrap" handle and HO oiler.
    Seems to oil the same as my old 661R (assuming same HO oiler).
     
    Lucero likes this.
  14. Cycledude

    Cycledude ArboristSite Operative

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2015
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    236
    Location:
    Rib lake wi
    I really have no problem adjusting carburetors but love auto tune they always run perfect.
     
  15. foeke

    foeke ArboristSite Operative

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2015
    Messages:
    270
    Likes Received:
    319
    Location:
    DE
    I double the dolkita 7910.
    More power, less weight, better av then the 372.
    But I don't understand the "no autotune". It's so user friendly.


    Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G955F met Tapatalk
     
    Lucero and Andyshine77 like this.
  16. rupedoggy

    rupedoggy Addicted to ArboristSite

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2001
    Messages:
    3,481
    Likes Received:
    2,376
    Location:
    Dayton Nevada.
    What's a coonawarra and what is a chippie? Chippies over here are either a whore or a CHP officer (close).
     
    Dahmer likes this.
  17. foeke

    foeke ArboristSite Operative

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2015
    Messages:
    270
    Likes Received:
    319
    Location:
    DE
  18. SAWMIKAZE

    SAWMIKAZE Addicted to ArboristSite

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    4,036
    Likes Received:
    7,917
    Location:
    steel city
    The physical fitness depends on you personally.

    I know stacked 300 lb dudes that are useless and 180 lb guys that could swing an 3120 all day.

    If you can swing a 90cc saw, got for it..70cc is a little light for milling.
     
    drf255, Lucero, hseII and 3 others like this.
  19. Andyshine77

    Andyshine77 Addicted to ArboristSite

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2004
    Messages:
    9,739
    Likes Received:
    6,910
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH
    The 661 has it's own oil pump. It has a pin that you tap in for HO oiling, no extra parts needed.
     
    SAWMIKAZE, Lucero, hseII and 2 others like this.
  20. Czed

    Czed Addicted to ArboristSite

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2018
    Messages:
    1,991
    Likes Received:
    19,056
    Location:
    Wv
    @Stihl working hard
    You cut that steel wood what work's over there?
    I'd run a 395 here for a lot of milling.
     
    SAWMIKAZE and Lucero like this.

Share This Page