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Discussion in 'Firewood, Heating and Wood Burning Equipment' started by sb47, May 8, 2019.

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    I had a guy all the way from Alberta stop in and buy some wood to take home with him. He wanted the heartwood and said wood with bark won't get past the border. We had a long talk about the differences between Texas and Alberta. He told me they don't have any good smoking wood up there. He said all they have is aspen and pine. He said he had looked at ads on CL before he made the trip down and he liked my ads and the detail I put into them. He's gonna love the 100% heartwood he picked up, pecan, live oak, post oak, red oak, hickory and mesquite. He bought a little of each. I filled a 20' container full of pecan to a guy that shipped it to his restaurant in the Bahamas. It's fun and interesting to sell wood to far away places.
     
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    I’m surprised that they’ll let him across the border. They don’t even allow bagged dog food or potatoes to be brought into Canada!
     
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    When he said he wanted mesquite I immediately thought and then asked about the bugs, because mesquite is always full of saw bugs, but he insisted that wood with no bark would pass inspection.
     
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    That's kind of surprising - most times you can't even get across the border with an apple in your pocket.

    I gotta think though he was down there for other reasons and just took the opportunity to bring some back while there? That's a long way to go just for some wood. No mesquite around here but all kinds of good maple. And oak, between here and Alberta.
     
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    Yes and no.

    Texas to southern Canada is a straight shot (I’ve driven Dallas to Minneapolis nonstop in a day) and with a fuel efficient vehicle you only have a couple hundred bucks in gas plus your time. If a guy is deeply invested into BBQ/smoking meats he’s got a lot of money tied up into it and a couple hundred into primo smoking wood is worth it.

    Not at all implying that SB47’s customer was doing this but when I hear of things that seem to not make $ sense I’m reminded of a personal experience: There was a guy that used to travel through here from a pot friendly state. He always was on his way east and had a couple of “meetings” in town. He claimed to be a traveling salesman but I knew good and well that neither of his businesses paid enough to fund his extensive travels. In addition, I was at a group function and watched him make a handful of obviously unprofitable deals, selling items for well less than fair price and in some cases extending credit to people he’d never met. I didn’t blow his cover but it was very clear he had a set schedule and was running pot from out west to the east coast and used his two (money losing) businesses to cover what was really going on.
     
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    even potatoes labeled "product of Canada" shipped to the united states, bought by a U.S. citizen going on vacation to "CANADA" !!! spuds left at the customs border garbage can for their retrieval when going home for tater supper? LOL so the next trip to "CANADA/ and their spud's again", after being pressure canned in glass quart jars! we were shook down again and questioned about the white things in the glass jars again? lol told the "CANADIAN customs " they were your product again canned in the pure and clean disease free country of the "united states"! they just shook their head and passed us through!! true story!!!!!! go figure....
     
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    Yep, Oregon legalized pot :(, and part of it prohibited selling it out of state, even to other states where it is legal.

    In their Infinite (LACK of) Wisdom, the state didn't regulate the number of growers, or the amount grown, so now we grow an estimated 6.5 times more Annually than is Legally sold within the state, and the state can't say just where all the excess is going:confused:o_O:rolleyes::innocent:

    Then in a further display of Wisdom, they just don't issue any MORE grow permits, without any regulating of the already grossly excessive production that we currently have.

    Then to make things even worse, the state set the taxes on pot too low, so instead of being this Wonderful Cash Cow generating the state all this supposed Revenue, the "Industry" :rolleyes: costs More to "Regulate" than the tax revenue generates, so for the state budget, it is a Net LOSS, not a source of revenue.

    Oregon is the Perfect Example of how NOT to Implement Legalizing Pot


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    I have no dog in the fight when it comes to legalized pot. I have an addictive personality so I stay away from things that are known to be addictive (ok maybe not saws). But it is really interesting that the US is so control oriented yet they allow states to rule individually on this.

    I honestly believe that if the government could find a way to tax both the producers and the consumers they would legalize it overnight across all 50 states.

    It is interesting though that a guy can legally get high in the PNW then come home, fail a drug test, and be fired from his job.
     
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    I'm Fine with that.

    Fortunately, my Step Daughter wasn't hurt, and the cops came, released the Stoner, and left before I got there, or I would probably still be in Jail.

    It was January or February, my Step Daughter was rear ended at a light by a Driver that the cops "Highly Suspected" was Stoned, of course they didn't do a Damned thing :mad:, if I had gotten there before the Cops, they never would have found him, I take things like Endangering my Family Seriously and Personally


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    Sorry to hear, but probably better for your wellbeing!
     
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    Actually the Pot Head's Well Being, My Freedom ;)


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    It won't be long till they come up with testing mechanisms and legal limits so they can feed that revenue stream. They make a lot of money off the DUI system with arbitrary state set limits.
     
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    Won't be soon enough for me

    I don't expect that enforcement will be very Vigorous, Oregon tends to be very Lenient with Pot and Illegal immigrants, now a White Boy with Alcohol, or a Firearm, you're going to jail, even if you haven't broken any Laws.

    You may get cleared in court, but you still have to deal with the Hassles and Expenses of the process, and don't expect an apology afterwards

    I Love where I Live, some of the most Beautiful Scenery You will find, but as Beautiful as the STATE is, our POLITICS are even Uglier


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    Whether he got through or not I do not know, but his statement about without bark is incorrect. Firewood being imported from the US to Canada (with or without bark) must have a permit to import, and must be accompanied with a Phytosanitary Certificate.

    http://www.inspection.gc.ca/plants/...estry/d-01-12/eng/1323828428558/1323828505539

    2.2.2 Import requirements for all species of firewood originating from the continental U.S.
    A Permit to Import is required.

    A Phytosanitary Certificate issued by the NPPO must accompany the shipment.

    Firewood must be heat treated as described by the following conditions to be permitted entry into Canada:

    Heat treated: the firewood must be heat treated using equipment (i.e., kiln) that is capable of heating wood to a minimum core temperature of 56°C for a minimum of 30 minutes.

    Under specific permit conditions, the Phytosanitary Certificate maybe waived in lieu of a Certificate of Origin(Appendix 2) for firewood imported from the U.S. The requirement for a Phytosanitary Certificate will be waived under the following conditions:

    1. Originating from a Pest Free Area: an area in which a specific pest or pests do not occur as demonstrated by scientific evidence and where appropriate, this condition is being officially maintained; or
    2. Originating from an Area of Identical Pest Distribution: an area in which the distribution of regulated pests occur, as demonstrated by scientific evidence, and is identical to the distribution of regulated pests in the importing area of Canada; or
    3. Firewood species originating from the continental United States that are not hosts to any of the pests listed on Canada's list of regulated pests.
     
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    I was surprised when I first learned how polarized the political environment is up there. The double standard in this country is disgusting.

    There was an, um "gal" who was from the state north of you who used to frequent this site. Meaner than all get out, always telling people not to move there. Not surprisingly, she was on the far other side of the political spectrum.
     
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    I didn't interact with her, but I know who you are talking about, and have read many of her posts

    I suspect she was/is Single, and that is NOT at all Surprising ;)


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    Not sure, maybe @olyman knows :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent:
     
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    hardy har har!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    You went out to see her one time, didn't you Oly? :happy::happy::happy::happy::happy:
     
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    as you know,,be the coldest day in hell ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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