Am I onto something here or just, on something?

[northmanlogging]

To preface, I can't stand the Alpine Butterfly/alpinstahl.

This is something I came up with, that works, and always comes loose no matter how tight it gets. Been using it for years, without ever having it fail, slip, or get stuck.

Basically its a clove hitch around a bight, or in truth my completely botched attempt at an alpinstahl from a really bad how to book... But it does I feel work better then the original.

Anyhow, honest opinions please.

 

[northmanlogging]

Also if it is another already named knot, then so be it, though I've yet to encounter it anywhere.

 

[Jakers]

Not a knot I've ever heard of or seen before. played around with it some and it looks like a combination or hybrid of a Figure-8 Loop, Butterfly Loop, and a Bowline. have you noticed any instability in directional use? better or worse from one direction of pull, the other, or even both ends with no actual tension on the loop?

 

[northmanlogging]

None I can notice. It slipped a little bit once, on a new rope, but just the once and only a few inches, same rope i had a bowline slip with as well. (actually I think it was the same pull?) So I've taken to putting a figure 8 on the tail for bowlines on new rope, but not bothering on this one, cause it could have been may imagination.

use it a bunch for 3-1 type stuff, or just for putting a loop in the middle to hook a shackle/biner to

Never seen a Figure 8 loop

Out of habit I tend to pull in the direction the loop flops towards, but haven't really noticed any difference.

 

[northmanlogging]

Only a few times have I pulled the ends with nothing in the middle, i prefer to untie anything not being used, but didn't have any issues with it.

Ya ever work with a guy that never unties anything or can't understand basic knots so his lines are all ****ed off and you end up just cutting **** to save some of the line?

I Hate that..

 

[Jakers]

Only a few times have I pulled the ends with nothing in the middle, i prefer to untie anything not being used, but didn't have any issues with it.

Ya ever work with a guy that never unties anything or can't understand basic knots so his lines are all ****ed off and you end up just cutting **** to save some of the line?

I Hate that..

I own my own business so I can't say I've ever worked with anyone like that but I have made a few "hatchet knots" in my days. Worst one was about 25'in on a brand new rope.

 

[rico11764]

Also if it is another already named knot, then so be it, though I've yet to encounter it anywhere.

I think we should christen it the "northmanlogging hitch" Like you I am not a fan of the Alpine, and this looks like a solid mid-line knot. Thanks for sharing. Patent that sh****t and you just might be able to quit your day job.

 

[northmanlogging]

Can you patent a knot?

For that matter why?

 

[ATH]

You probably "can"...but how would you protect it or monetize it? On second thought the fact you can't monetize may mean they'd reject the patent application.

 

[rico11764]

You probably "can"...but how would you protect it or monetize it? On second thought the fact you can't monetize may mean they'd reject the patent application.

I think the enforcement end would have to be left to the Knot Police, which is a division of the Safety/Tree Police.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Well, I am a fan of the alpine,, sorry, but I am,,
Jeff

 

[northmanlogging]

we all have favorites

Some guys run Husqvarna, who am I to judge...

 

[BC WetCoast]

The way I teach my scouts how to tie an Alpine Butterfly

Make a snowman
Bend him over
Stuff his head up his ass

 

[Jakers]

The way I teach my scouts how to tie an Alpine Butterfly

Make a snowman
Bend him over
Stuff his head up his ass

great, now i have pancake to clean off the screen and keyboard

 

[northmanlogging]

I swear I didn't plan this, and this is litteraly just from regular use. had to cut off a 4'

I really hate the alpine butterfly...

 

[ropensaddle]

Bowline on the bight is my go to midline loop.

 

[yooper]

Circus bowline/three ring bowline.
Old school I guess.

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

we all have favorites

Some guys run Husqvarna, who am I to judge...

My favorite is cutting trees while sitting in a heated cab jamming to oldies country.
Rope...pffttt!

 

[northmanlogging]

My favorite is cutting trees while sitting in a heated cab jamming to oldies country.
Rope...pffttt!

Some guys like having hemorrhoids...

Not judging...

 

[Jakers]

Some guys like having hemorrhoids...

Not judging...

some guys bodies won't let them do stupid stuff like we do either... Mine is close to giving out but I'm stubborn