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Deere John

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Do you track you success rate for bidding jobs? I remember doing that and overall, me thinks I remember a 73% success rate.

Homeowners were good - greater than 80%.
Businesses were better yet, but the payment terms were excessive
Provincial government was good to0 - better than 60%
Municipal government was a little tougher - 35% or so
Strictly telephone enquires were strictly 0%
and social agencies that wanted their minimum of 3 bid were also 0%

How did/do you do in your market?
 
treeclimber165

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I never kept track, but because virtually all of my work was referrals I would have to say that my residential work was 80%-90% or better. If I got a call from a referral, it was practically sold before I got there. Your numbers on the other categories seem right on the mark.
 

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I'd say about 80 - 85 % almost all residential. If I bid a nasty job, I make sure I bid it high enough that I don't regret it and there's always guys around who only need to make enough to cover the beer.
 
Deere John

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Yes its funny how we usually never get the calls for the easy take downs. Too much competition from the handy neighbour, lawnguy, brother-in-law with aluminum ladder, mini-Mac saw and yellow poly rope or the guy down the street that would wack it just for the firewood in it. Beer generally involved in all above transactions.

I never tracked referals etc. I will do that for snowplowing, because most people will tell without being prompted. Good idear.
 
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Most of my work seems to come from an ad in a local papers classifieds. If they call, they seem committed, over 90% of the time anyways. The folks that leave me hanging are generally trying to get some of the federal money for fire mitigation landscaping work and seem to need a few bids to apply. If they get the money, fine, if not then they aint doin nuthin. Referrals are probably 100%. If they call after getting my name from a previous client, they want something done. I've picked up 3 out of 4 house neighboring a clients by having the owners stroll over for a chat, ask what you can do for their tree, etc. I just ran my 1st Yellow Pages (Names & Numbers) ad, so the juries still out on how effective that is. One of my clients, a ritzy local hotel, got my number off my truck. The hotel greens peron was looking for a new tree person & there I was.
 
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I am getting less and less. Last year I was probably getting about 25% of the bids, year before probably more like 40-50%. This year I have been bidding higher and higher and only been getting about 15-20%. I don't want to be known as the lowest co. around , if you're getting 80% of your bids it's time to raise your prices! Unless that is from all referalls, that's pretty good then.
There are some very large co's here that consistently underbid me , I don't know how they can do it.
There is an unreal amount of competition here so we do Lawn+ Landscape work too, if i was trying to survive only on tree work I would have been bankrupt already. We actually make more money doing landscaping, doesn't make any sense but I'm glad I learned landscaping! The lawn work doesn't really make any money but it ties into the reg. landscape maint. and works out good.
 
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Man dont even start losing sleep worieing how the big boys do it so cheap. Its not worth it. Go ahead & mix in some landscaping. We did alot of tree work for lrg. landscape companys. It was just pride. Me tree man, you mow grass! What a knocklehead I was. Just look at the home of the landscape man.& his car & toys.No high workers comp., Lrg. trucks, & all the high priced Equip. it takes to do a tree.The price a comercial landscaper gets to fix a broken sprinkler head, is much better than most tree trim prices.
 
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