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Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by moose118, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. moose118

    moose118 ArboristSite Lurker

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    Just picked up an almost new cs3000 for $20. It has an intenz bar that is completely shot. I have a new intenze bar for but can't seem to find anything on how to properly adjust it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    Philbert Chainsaw Enthusiast

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    I have an old cs3400 that came with the intenz bar. I couldn't seem to keep it adjusted right, so I went to the dealer and got the regular screw type adjuster.
     
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    Yes, that bar brought us "Oregon Engineer"!!!

    He had heard some a-hole on Arboristsite was bad mouthin' his bar!!!
     
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    Philbert Chainsaw Enthusiast

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    WOW! That thread predates me by almost 2 years on this site!

    Thanks for posting the link @HarleyT . I added one back to this thread. Too bad that @Oregon Engineer has not been on A.S. for 2+ years. @PowerSharp Eng was here on A.S. about 4 months ago.

    Philbert
     
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    Does the cs5000 need the intenz feature? Echo? I have one and just use the intenz feature to tighten it up when putting the clutch cover and bar on. They are made of the double guard materials, pretty low grade though they might be better lately can't say.

    If I was to experiment with the bar I have would consider holding the bar and chain in one hand with the powerhead hanging while twisting the adjuster in the bar and then tightening the bar nuts.
     
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    Yeah, we first crossed swords on the Garden Web, I would love to have access to those online battles. It was all good fun, and those Oregon guys are great people.
     
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    My CS3450 came with one of those bars and it was hard to keep adjusted. I had the proper screw driven adjuster on hand so I installed that on the saw and it works great. I moved the adjuster in the bar as far forward as possible and now it adjusts normally.
     
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    Best tip: put a conventional adjuster on the saw and call it a day!
     
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    Conquistador3 Le Comte de Frou Frou

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    So we can honestly say the good folks at Oregon tried reinventing the wheel?

    My idea is somebody at the Blount financial department told the folks in R&D to come up with a way to make a bit more money through patents and this is the end result. They probably aimed at flogging this stuff upon manufacturers for their homeowner products, where the limits of the concept would not show too soon. Too bad the idea was just bogus, and I don't envy that poor R&D guy who was conscripted into defending this concept in online forums where frustrated owners were just waiting to vent their frustration at being handed a poor deal.
    Nothing worse than knowing customers are right but having to toe the company line. I hope he got an extra paycheque for his troubles but I am not holding my breath.
     
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    svk A little bit of everything

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    More or less, yes
     
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    Product design is challenging: each 'hit' will have several 'misses', and dozens (hundreds?) of ideas that never make it even to a prototype stage.

    As a chain 'geek', I have rooted through a number of chainsaw related patents, and am amazed at the things people have tried over the past 75 years.

    Some do not 'work' when first released, but find a market later. E.g. saw chain with replaceable cutters, now used on some harvester chains.

    The Intenz product is a great idea, and a step up from the spring-loaded tips, offered by one company, to address the chain tension problem.

    If nobody tried to innovate, we would still be using stone axes.

    Philbert
     
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    It was based on the theory that the bar nuts did ALL of the holding the bar/chain tight.
     
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    Someone may still find a way to make it work.

    Philbert
     
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    Wait till the "Automatic Chainsaw Tensioning Device" hits the market :omg: It's gonna make Intenz bars so 90's. Just leave that scrench behind boys, never loose a bar nut again :laughing:

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    With short bars ....a pair of gloves when snugging up bar nuts is about all one needs to tension a chain... Unless I’m doing it wrong.
     
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    Just like that silly derailleur on 'modern' bicycles 115 years ago! Any serious cyclist would simply stop, loosen the nuts with a scrench-type tool, and slide the rear wheel forward or back in the dropouts to adjust chain tension. Or 'flip' the wheel to the sprocket on the other side ('flip/flop wheel') for speed versus torque.

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    'Self-Adjusting' guide bar from Mark Heimann's soon-to-open Vintage Chainsaw Museum!

    Philbert
     
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