FarmerTec Holzfforma G660 Purple Monster

[Bedford T]

Is this a mean purple machine or is it blue? I just got one last week. It is exactly the same as the kit just blue and without the opportunity to improve it. I see where the rotor still breaks. Do you disassemble it for preventive stuff or run it until its done? I could smell gas, maybe they test them.

anyone using one? I have not cranked it.

I love the color. I wondered if it was going to be actually orange when they shipped it, Huztl.net has this and says its for folks that dont want a kit. something for everyone.

 

[bplust]

If you didn't post a picture, I'd swear that, between the title & description, you were describing an implement you picked up on 8th Ave in NYC to keep the wife loyal while you travel for business.

I have no comment on the product; just going for a low-brow chuckle.

 

[Little Al]

Beware false info It's blue not purple " Item not as described"

 

[67L36Driver]

A quick check of the starter is in order as sometimes the knot in the rope stands proud of the pulley and will catch on the flywheel at speed.

Four screws @ ten minutes.

 

[cuinrearview]

anyone using one?

No

I have not crunked it.

Fixed it

 

[Bedford T]

That's two problems then. Since day one in the kits the rotor would explode from the plastic being weak, when you drop start them. I don't drop start but mine eventually broke. Changing to a oem fixed that. You will mess the spring up before breaking that rotor. I have a rotor to put on it.

Yours has a bent spring that was a big knot, I don't recall the spring being damaged by the drop start faliure.

A quick check of the starter is in order as sometimes the knot in the rope stands proud of the pulley and will catch on the flywheel at speed.

Four screws @ ten minutes.

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[ammoaddict]

I have watched a couple YouTube videos on them and they say they are pretty decent machines and the fast idle actually works. They are supposedly built by another company for huztl.

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[Bedford T]

Hutzl is the marketplace for FarmerTec. FarmerTec is a manufacturer and a buyer. Somebody they own builds them out of the same pot of parts the kits come from. They been building saws for Africa for a long time they sell a ton of the 070 there. Here they actually made their brand distinct. Yes it a 660 they did not design but they took it and developed their own identity, no orange and cream knockoff. You are using a Chinese machine. A real nice one.

That was what peaked my curiosity, the kit saws have guys that really depend on their gut to build it, and they would screw it up or not catch a problem and the thing would fail and there would be hard feelings. That's why I did a mess of videos anyone that cared for a great saw could have it if they put in the work. Well they solved the work part. They took that responsibility out of the hands of the impatient. But back to what I am curious about, what about the things like the rotor plastic, or the long Tang on the circlip or the twenty or so other things that would improve the life of the saw that would require a different part.

I told the main guy two years ago he should take this step and he did and it seems to be assembled well.

I have watched a couple YouTube videos on them and they say they are pretty decent machines and the fast idle actually works. They are supposedly built by another company for huztl.

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[cuinrearview]

You got one thing right. They took it...

 

[Bedford T]

Get over it.

You got one thing right. They took it...

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[cuinrearview]

Get over it.

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I'm good, never hurts to remind newbies though

I know where to get what I need for what I do...

 

[Bedford T]

Anyone in NC or close to the border, I can be in SC in 1.5hr that would like to do a side by side with me if you have a Stihl 660, I would like to see how they compare. I am pretty proud of the 660 I built and could use it, still I would prefer a Stihl so it would be a true comparison.

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[Remle]

I guess the question here is should patents last forever? At some point it ceases to be theft and actually becomes a service to the public. I mean Stihl hasn’t sold some of these saws here in decades. Farmertec is producing parts and new saws that will likely keep some of these saws in service decades from now. Making counterfeits is unethical, but making reproductions or replacement parts is not.

 

[cuinrearview]

They used to be counterfeits, poor ones. Now they're just copies. Still poor ones.

They do make serviceable bar nuts, decomp plugs, and intake clamps. And cheap!

 

[Bedford T]

They used to be counterfeits, poor ones. Now they're just copies. Still poor ones.

They do make serviceable bar nuts, decomp plugs, and intake clamps. And cheap!

So which of these counterfeits do you own? Just so we know that your assessment is first hand.


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[cuinrearview]

So which of these counterfeits do you own? Just so we know that your assessment is first hand.


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https://www.youtube.com/the1chainsawguy

Some of the decomp plugs, clamps, and bar nuts. I bought a box of FT parts for a 372 build once, and ended up not feeling comfortable using any of them because I knew I'd sell the saw eventually. The crank assembly was heavier than stock, the metal on the oiler was lighter. Felt like it wouldn't be durable. The air deflector that goes under the starter was so ridiculously horribly molded that I re-used the stocker that had a small groove worn through it but still functioned.

Basically I had an issue with more than half of the components I bought. The experience created my opinion on this manufacturer. It was emboldened reading the threads about kit saws. EVERY one focuses on the problem areas and part swaps to OEM, just to make them function. And this is when the components are new. One has to believe that wear would cause premature failure to others. And then there are the build offs at GTGs, which consistently end in consensus that they're not worth it. And these opinions are from folks who have far more experience than me.

I don't have a Holzafarmeteccahuztl saw, and I won't. I repair and build OEM saws with OEM and a proven AM part here and there. I have used one Huztl clutch cover. The Chinese are just too inconsistent at this point.

My opinion is always evolving though.

 

[Bedford T]

Some of the decomp plugs, clamps, and bar nuts. I bought a box of FT parts for a 372 build once, and ended up not feeling comfortable using any of them because I knew I'd sell the saw eventually. The crank assembly was heavier than stock, the metal on the oiler was lighter. Felt like it wouldn't be durable. The air deflector that goes under the starter was so ridiculously horribly molded that I re-used the stocker that had a small groove worn through it but still functioned.

Basically I had an issue with more than half of the components I bought. The experience created my opinion on this manufacturer. It was emboldened reading the threads about kit saws. EVERY one focuses on the problem areas and part swaps to OEM, just to make them function. And this is when the components are new. One has to believe that wear would cause premature failure to others. And then there are the build offs at GTGs, which consistently end in consensus that they're not worth it. And these opinions are from folks who have far more experience than me.

I don't have a Holzafarmeteccahuztl saw, and I won't. I repair and build OEM saws with OEM and a proven AM part here and there. I have used one Huztl clutch cover. The Chinese are just too inconsistent at this point.

My opinion is always evolving though.

I never bought a husky kit. Your right in that to make a trustworthy saw you gotta replace some parts. It can be done i have a 660 that is good as the one they made. But it required work and attention to detail. I got 500-600 in a 1200 saw.

I walk up to a tree and going to cut it down I don't want the thing melting on me half way in. Things happen fast. The case and tank and things are OEM quailty but you do, you must, make changes and you only have half the cost in it. thats a prize.

I replace, decomp, circlip, piston bearing, rotor, elastostart, cylinder, piston, carb, fuel hose, throttle bar, trigger, rim kit. Improved on the foil with header tape. The kit gives you the framework.

Cutting firewood it would be safe, felling is another matter

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[Bedford T]

There I am back to wanting to see how I feel about this G660

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[cuinrearview]

$500-$600, plus how much in time? Not sure about you, but my time is worth something. Another $150 maybe? You can buy a hell of a lot of 660 for $750, and it's actually worth $750. Good luck getting $750 out of an AM one, if you fully disclose what's under the hood. And the hood...