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Discussion in 'Forestry and Logging Forum' started by Gologit, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. TheBrushSlasher

    TheBrushSlasher I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.

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    Dozer 4242 was operated by Braden varney, may he rest in peace. I hope to hike to the site in the near future.
     
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    HumBurner ArboristSite Operative

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    The green tanks allow the growth of algae as well, though not quite as bad as the lighter colored tanks. Even in full-shade 365 days a year.
     
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    HumBurner ArboristSite Operative

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    Stop building in/beyond the WUI and you eliminate 50% or more of the issue. But anytime someone speaks of limiting human growth/expansion they are immediately jumped upon and treated like a Charlatan.

    Or, if you insist upon it, only allow homes that are 99.99% fire hardened.
     
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    Good to know about the green tanks.
     
  5. atpchas

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    From a NYT article on the Australian fires:
    "Bush fires can be so large and hot that they generate their own dangerous, unpredictable weather systems. These so-called firestorms can produce lightning, strong winds and even fire tornadoes. What they don’t produce is rain.

    The volunteer firefighter who died on Monday was crushed after a fire tornado lifted a fire truck off the ground."

    Damn!
     
  6. HumBurner

    HumBurner ArboristSite Operative

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    If you haven't seen it, image search "pyroclastic lightning." Both volcanic eruptions and wildfires can produce hail/lightning/flooding conditions. Wildfires can produce tornadoes, but I'm not sure if volcanic eruptions can.
     
  7. catbuster

    catbuster Catskinner. And buster.

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    There was a similar incident on the Carr fire with F3 tornado strength. The heat-caused updraft broke the inversion layer, and all hell broke loose as the atmosphere destabilized and the wind shear spun the updraft then caused it to move around. It was somewhere around a half mile wide. I don’t remember if there were any deaths directly related to it.

    It always sucks to hear about somebody dying, especially when it’s a firefighter, even from another country.
     
  8. TheBrushSlasher

    TheBrushSlasher I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.

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    Tetlin ridge fire in Alaska.
     
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    I believe 2 directly, Dozer operator (heat) and a Redding Prevention Officer (Blunt Trauma from being launched in his vehicle) and numerous close calls.
    https://projects.sfchronicle.com/2018/carr-fire-tornado/

    The Marin engine is from my county


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  10. TheBrushSlasher

    TheBrushSlasher I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.

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    This was the start of the fire tornado at the CARR Fire. This video was taken from our development just before it jumped the river and killed the 2 fire fighters.




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    Not sure if posted before

    From the Camp fire



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    Blue Oaks ArboristSite Guru

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    I finally got my hands on the Brush Rigs I got donated from San Jose Search and Rescue to our Volunteer Fire Association. Fifty cents each.

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    catbuster Catskinner. And buster.

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    Those look like some pretty nice rigs for fifty cents each. Like, way nicer than our ‘83 Chevy K20.

    I can’t tell-are they set up for USAR or wildland? Even if they’re set up for SAR it probably wouldn’t be hard to stick a skid unit in the back and run it as a Type 5 or 6. It would just depend on how heavy the department wanted to make the truck-not so much because of the chassis, they’re F-350s, but more for how they would handle off road.
     
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    Blue Oaks ArboristSite Guru

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    They have water tanks and 3 cyl diesel engine driven pumps on the back. Basically a Type 6. I'll take some more pics and post them up.
     
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