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how much does a cord weight

Discussion in 'Firewood, Heating and Wood Burning Equipment' started by JONSSTIHL, Aug 25, 2006.

  1. DanMan1

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    If a cord of water alone is 7,973 pounds, and a cord of wet red oak is 5,700 pounds, can I calculate the moisture content of a Michigan face cord of this?:)
     
  2. stumpguy

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    how many cubic feet are in a "michigan face cord"? :dizzy:
     
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    However many you want there to be. Since it's not a defined measurement, you can be... flexible.
     
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    JAL ArboristSite Operative

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    Over here it is 4' x 4' x 8' for a cord of wood and a run is a third of a cord. To be officially classified as a cord, the wood should be stacked so tight as to allow a squirrel to get through but not let the cat that is chasing it get through. Simple!
     
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    Measurements

    It's amazing how many people think they know volumes of wood. In most states wood for sale has to be described in terms of a full cord or part thereof. When selling wood by the bundle it has to say what part of 1 cu ft it is and what part of a full cord it is. Some states allow the use of the word
    "Rick" or "Rik" - Wisconsin is one. To find what your state requires look up your states' bureau of weights and measures. And stop guessing.:clap:
     
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    I measured my F150 today. It has racks that go a bit above the cab.
    Width 5' and a few inches
    length 8' and a few inches
    height 4' and a few inches

    So 5x8x4 = 160 ft3 well over a cord even allowing for two wheel wells and a spare tire in the bed.

    I don't load it full tho. 4 ricks crosswise leaving the tail end clear for the saws and other equipment. Still makes a heavy load.

    Harry K
     
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    Yep , You can get a full cord in a full size bed with rails but there again 4000 lbs on a 1000 lbs truck is not a good mix . I ended up building a trailer out of another F150 box ( half the truck , built the hitch ) Now i can cover the weight in over two truck box beds and have the room for my gear . Stock can pull around 5500 lbs so i would rather pull the extra weight then have it all on just the 1 truck axle .
     
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    Oh, yeah, overloading is very easy to do. I once hauled 22 #1 RR ties 17 miles on my old 62 chev 1/2 ton...had to replace all 4 shocks the next day.

    Harry K
     
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    Normally it's your springs that break not the shocks. Your shock bodies must have been rusted to paper thin.
     
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    O.K., so it's 4' x 4' x 8', not 128 cuft. So you say a 'run' is a third of 4' x 4' x 8'?
    so a 'run' = 4/3' x 4' x 8', or 4' x 4/3' x 8' or is it 4' x 4' x 8/3'?
    :popcorn:
     
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    4'x4'x8'=128cuft so a 'run" would be 128/3 or 42.67cuft
     
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    A cord is 4' x 4' x 8' =128 cubic feet
    a run is 16" x 4' x 8'

    The 16" is a standard fireplace log length and so that is where a 16" wide x 4' tall x 8' long stack of wood equals a 1/3 of a cord comes from.
     
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    Didn't seem to be but the seals were shot. Of course the rest of the PU was in the 'junker' category too. Hauled a lot of wood with that old rig.

    Harry K
     
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    Well I can say that I have had my truck on the scales picking up some stone dust for a customer. The truck weighed in at just over 10,000 and its a Chevy 2500 with a 8600 gvw... so yes it's easy to over load a truck...

    Now as far as volume of a cord.. let me ask this question a different way...

    Can someone tell the difference between a full cord.. (128 cu) and say .95 of a cord or 1.05... can you tell when your 12 pieces of wood under or over of a cord or better yet.. can a customer spot it...

    More of the volume of it is subjective than objective that you think... take a step back and think about it...

    just my .02 and I am sticking with it
     
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    Around here to legally sell cordwood, after you put a cord of wood in your truck, 75 gallons of water added to the bed of the truck must meet, or exceed the top of the 2 foot high bed rail, otherwise the stack is considered too loose and contains less than 1 cord.
     
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    As a kid my dad and I sold firewood and he had a 4'x4'x8' set of steel tubes that where welded to hold a "cord" of wood. Any of his customers where welcome to come see the quantity of wood we call a cord.

    I still have that old rack that I now store wood on and have also built a bunch of duplicates for holding the 3 cords I use a year, plus racks for friends and family.

    The racks I've built have started an argument or two with local wood suppliers who sell a cord of wood delivered in a half ton truck!

    I have a Chevy dump with a 2'x6'x10' bed and my "cord" uses every bit of that bed!

    I actually got stopped by D.O.T and a "cord" of dry (1Year) Oak weighed like 3700 lbs , or around there as the truck was 7,250 and the total was 11K.

    Jeff
     
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    Interesting math

    There's a firewood place here in NW PA that lets you back right up to the pile and load your own wood - take only the pieces you like, toss aside any undesirable species / heavy wet logs / etc, pack it and stack it as tight as you like. Then you pull over to the office, and they measure the size of your pile, and charge $1 a cubic foot. The math always goes something like this. "Let's see, that's about six feet wide, and about eight feet long, so that's forty-eight, and 18" high, a little extra on top to account for the wheel wells, ok, let's see, that comes out to... let's call it $60." I've never had any reason to argue. :laugh:
     
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    Where have you been lately?
     
  19. banshee67

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    what in the world:msp_scared:
    ive never heard this one before

    what truck beds are even water tight?
    what kind of truck are we talking about? people use all sorts of vehicles/trailers to deliver firewood

    assuming somehow this hypothetical truck bed IS water tight, how do you get the 600+ pounds of water back out after?
    :dizzy:
     
  20. turnkey4099

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    Same here and I find the claim is dubious.

    Harry K
     

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