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Huztl / Farmertec ms 440

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by tbohn, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. tbohn

    tbohn ArboristSite Operative

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    I just received my new Huztl aftermarket ms 440 parts kit. This is a new kit from Huztl and I like the looks of the parts so far.

    I would like to hear about other builders of these kits. I think they will be popular at under $300 delivered.
     
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    Big_Wood westcoast dweller

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    300 delivered? how much did you pay? i installed one on a 440 summer 2016 and it was under $100 shipped on ebay lol probably one of the better hutzl cylinders as far as bevelling and ran good. not a fan of the plating though. seems they're getting tired by 200 tanks.
     
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    He is not talking about a Hutzle P/C....its a complete parts 440 saw like the 361/660 kits.
     
  4. dswensen

    dswensen ArboristSite Guru

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    I ordered one too. How long did delivery take after your order? Mine was $280 which included $98-ish for processing/shipping.


     
  5. tbohn

    tbohn ArboristSite Operative

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    10 days.
     
  6. tbohn

    tbohn ArboristSite Operative

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    The Huztl site showed a spur sprocket with the kit but it came with a rim sprocket. The crankcase has a nice finish and seems well built. It has a Duel Port muffler with no internal baffles. I put the case together last night. The case halves were put in a preheated oven (Turned off) for 10 minutes. The crank was outside on my deck at -10F. The flywheel side in easily and the clutch side went on with little force from the crankcase screws. I am still waiting for a Huztl 52mm cylinder kit I ordered from ebay.
    Here are some photos
     

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    dswensen ArboristSite Guru

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    Trying to glean some wisdom here for my build -

    I get the "preheated, oven turned off before case halves went in for 10 minutes" part. But what did you preheat to? 250? 225?

    Did you put the flywheel side together first and maybe the temps of the pieces got closer together before you put the other side on, making the crankcase screws necessary to get it together? I'm wondering how fast you have to work to take advantage of the heating of crankcase and cooling of crank.

    Also, did you get any shipping notices? Or did it just show up 10 days later? I ordered mine 5 days ago and have heard nothing since.

    Thank you for posting for those of us who come behind ....

     
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    Big_Wood westcoast dweller

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    seems like one heck of a price for the whole build a saw kit! didn't even catch that.
     
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    No shipping confirmations, but you can check the status of your order from the "View Your Order History" page on your account. You can enter your shipping number into sf-express (seems to take a few days from the time you see a shipping number).

    They seem to to be much better about responding to email as well. Use huztldealer@outlook.com
     
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    I just checked and it's the same 98usd shipping charge for Canuckistan on a 660 kit... come to the dark side :bowdown:
     
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    Big_Wood westcoast dweller

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    i said it's a good price, never said i would own one. i got enough OEM saws lol
     
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    I preheat the oven to 260f. I leave the clutch side half in the oven while I install the crank in the left side. I then take out the right case halve and put them together.
     
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    Perfect - thank you!

     
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    dswensen ArboristSite Guru

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    Where did your shipping number come from? I have heard nothing since I got a PayPal confirmation for payment.

     
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    Someone out there has crashed hutzl's website... anyone wanna fess up :nofunny:

    When it comes back up, we'll get you figgered out
     
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    Can't wait to see you build it! I ordered one to and it should be here early next week. For questions about the shipping, I to didn't get anything about when or if it shipped just a order number. I emailed Huztl and they got back to very quickly and gave me a tracking number and everything I needed. I am awaiting the arrival and will definitely be posting a build thread.

    I also bought there west coast style clutch cover and a 3/4 wrap handle from them, Ill post some initial impressions when they arrive early next week, stay tuned.
     
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    While I am waiting for my 52mm cylinder kit, I installed a few more parts. The oil pick-up hose installed easily after the case halves were assembled. The oiler, bushing and clutch also assembled without issues.
    I did have issues with the flywheel. The flywheel looks like a steel hub press fit (?) into the flywheel at high temperature. The hub has the bore for the tapered crankshaft and has the threads for the flywheel removal tool. The hub does not fit the crankshaft well and the removal tool threads are unusable. I am going to ask for a new flywheel.

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    I also installed the chain adjuster. The gear with screwdriver slot is very tight where it fits into the case. I had to work the gear (rotate) back and forth utility it turned freely.
     
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    I would imagine there to be some quality issues present, though i have read that huztl does have a great respond time and are willing to replace broken parts or damaged parts. It is a bummer that it was shipped like that though.
     
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    A few more issues as I go through the parts.
    1. Missing 4mm e-clip for brake linkage. I had one of the two required.
    2. The throttle linkage is missing.
    3. One of the recoil pawls was broken.
    4. Missing av buffer plug. One of the two large ones.
    Not big deals but it will delay the build. The quality of the parts are equivalent to the Huztl 660 kits I built...not quite OEM but adequate.
     
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    I heard on the fake news that the Russians hacked them...
     
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