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There are hundreds of good builders in my state alone who've never heard of this website. I say that because you can spend a little time in here and start thinking there are only a couple good builders on earth.
This is ridiculous....and I solely blame sponsorship...not site mods or members, simply the sponsorship system. It seemed to come with a title to the website for some.
 
There are hundreds of good builders in my state alone who've never heard of this website. I say that because you can spend a little time in here and start thinking there are only a couple good builders on earth.
This is ridiculous....and I solely blame sponsorship...not site mods or members, simply the sponsorship system. It seemed to come with a title to the website for some.

respectfully I disagree
Sponsorship allows a newbie to differentiate between some member who might PM them offering to build them a great saw and an actual business that has a track record and enough money to buy the right to advertise.
A forum like this is a business first and you cant have the chaff advertising for free alongside the wheat.
Competition breeds progress. There were/are several great builders here who were also able to communicate to the masses effectively about their craft. Good teachers are hard to find, ask the dummies walking down the street who cant operate a belt.

It seems like any time a builder wanted to show off his latest and greatest it was like they were banging their wang against an idiot bell to call out all the sycophants and hangers on to begin bashing any other craftsman out there and nobody could resist the siren call to idiocy.

No idea what a great solution is, hell maybe there isn't one...
 
respectfully I disagree
Sponsorship allows a newbie to differentiate between some member who might PM them offering to build them a great saw and an actual business that has a track record and enough money to buy the right to advertise.
A forum like this is a business first and you cant have the chaff advertising for free alongside the wheat.
Competition breeds progress. There were/are several great builders here who were also able to communicate to the masses effectively about their craft. Good teachers are hard to find, ask the dummies walking down the street who cant operate a belt.

It seems like any time a builder wanted to show off his latest and greatest it was like they were banging their wang against an idiot bell to call out all the sycophants and hangers on to begin bashing any other craftsman out there and nobody could resist the siren call to idiocy.

No idea what a great solution is, hell maybe there isn't one...

Who relies on websites to find saw builders? And sponsorship doesn't prove you know ****, it only proves you footed the bill. There isn't a single builder on this site that I'd blindly trust simply over the fact that is states "sponsor" on their title.

Don't mix building saws and selling saw parts together in this for the argument of sponsorship.
 
Who relies on websites to find saw builders? And sponsorship doesn't prove you know ****, it only proves you footed the bill. There isn't a single builder on this site that I'd blindly trust simply over the fact that is states "sponsor" on their title.

Don't mix building saws and selling saw parts together in this for the argument of sponsorship.

In my particular case I had never heard of a ported saw before I joined AS, I am positive I am not alone in this, I picked a builder based on the advise of a sponsor who recommended him.
Being able to foot the bill should count for something, shouldn't it?
Professionalism means something to me. Being able to make things right if/when they go wrong is important.

I feel like I am arguing when I don't want to be.
Is the "selling parts" thing meant to be a barb of some sort or do I need some Midol.

Dave
 
In my particular case I had never heard of a ported saw before I joined AS, I am positive I am not alone in this, I picked a builder based on the advise of a sponsor who recommended him.
Being able to foot the bill should count for something, shouldn't it?
Professionalism means something to me. Being able to make things right if/when they go wrong is important.

I feel like I am arguing when I don't want to be.
Is the "selling parts" thing meant to be a barb of some sort or do I need some Midol.

Dave

I feel I should apologize because I never considered reasons other than just building saws when I made my opinionated comment. I do not see anyone selling just parts and measuring their roosters about it.

Edit: key word "recommendation".
 
Definatedave is oozing out cense in truckloads. I find it funny how much drama there is around the place over builders, their methods, their followers/fanclub cheerleaders and so on. I promise everyone who says 'I won't be coming back'.....WILL come back, and in suprisingly short order. Hell even the one that start threads saying 'goodbye I am leaving' come back fast. They can't help themselves, thay's ok l get that. But what I don't get is how how many act worse than misbehaving children and think its fine to do so. When AS is at its best is when people from all over come together, share ideas, help people who are in need and band together for the better of the community. I think we all get more out of this place than we give, we should occaisionally sit back not take things so serious and be thankfull for what we have at the end of our fingertips. Amen to that....and I'm an athiest!
 
Definatedave is oozing out cense in truckloads. I find it funny how much drama there is around the place over builders, their methods, their followers/fanclub cheerleaders and so on. I promise everyone who says 'I won't be coming back'.....WILL come back, and in suprisingly short order. Hell even the one that start threads saying 'goodbye I am leaving' come back fast. They can't help themselves, thay's ok l get that. But what I don't get is how how many act worse than misbehaving children and think its fine to do so. When AS is at its best is when people from all over come together, share ideas, help people who are in need and band together for the better of the community. I think we all get more out of this place than we give, we should occaisionally sit back not take things so serious and be thankfull for what we have at the end of our fingertips. Amen to that....and I'm an athiest!
Well fellows I agree with most of your statement except for the last part. Cant go that route but thats yalls business
 
My hybrid came to life yesterday! Still waiting on a couple things though.
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real nice! never seen a black stihl before. sharp

I notice u have some turned up edges on your label on 044's chain brake lever (engine side) I had some too on my 044. I carefully laid in some contact cement... using toothpick... on lable side up and black of handle or label. used xacto point to lightly upset black plastic to better ensure cement adheasion. just lightly here n there as needed. waited 20-25 mins or so, did it inside so at least room temperature, had let glue sit inside over nite to normalize... and then worked the lifted lable edges back into place. came out real nice. though you might find this technique to be of interest... :)
 

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