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I almost had me a wood thief?..

Discussion in 'Firewood, Heating and Wood Burning Equipment' started by JTP, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Dalmatian90

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    Actually, it just about is.

    This ain't the 1970s anymore.

    Burglary rate in 1960 was 5 per 1,000 people.

    2010 it was 7 per 1,000. Not really a huge difference. Some years in between oh yeah -- peaked in 1980 at 17 burglaries per 1,000 population.

    Most of our other crime statistics have all followed the same trends.

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    I like cameras. May not stop break ins, but neither do alarms. But gives you a fighting chance to actually catch who did it...and the more times you can rack up cases against someone, the more likely they'll actually get punished.
     
  2. unclemoustache

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    Nobody ever wins a pissing contest, boys. Let's get back to the topic, eh?

    For my part, I don't really see the use of a video camera. Seems like all you do is get a recording of people stealing your stuff. How helpful is it for getting it back?

    What are the best preventative measures? I've got door locks and security lights, but what ought I to do beyond that?
     
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    Fake cameras. It is only a deterrent, sure, but an effective one. These people don't want to get caught doing what they do. This won't stop the determined, or the desperate, but the rational ones will take notice, and find easier pickings. This will work even better if your criminal-pressure is lower. Make yourself look like a risky target, and they'll pass you by.

    eta I engrave everything I have of theivable value with my driver's license number. Usually 3 times. One in an obvious spot, one slightly hidden, and one deep inside. Never had anything stolen that this has helped me, but I think it can only help when you see your stuff at the pawn shop.
     
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    If i was ever going to break the law the only thing that would ,scare ,worry ,deter stop me, would probably be a video camera!
     
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    I installed real nice video system 10 years ago at my yard location where my construction equipment is stored and all my firewood splitting happens. I have caught many a thefts and bad things. The worst was a few months back when I recorded a murder from a bad drug deal and the bad people were arrested the next night thanks to my video and the pro's doing their homework. They did confiscate my video system for court and did reimburse me for a new better system.

    On lighter side, I caught my neighbor steeling my firewood and I invited him in my office and ran the video back of him steeling many wagon loads of wood. I explained to him that if he donates a days hard work helping us cut split and stack that he could continue with having some wood or else don't touch. He elected to NOT TOUCH.:chainsawguy:
     
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    Really? Back many years ago when I was about 10, me and 4 of my friend has a pissing contest. Guess what! I won. I had the longest stream in the bunch. :blob2: Not don't say you can't win.

    But in this case your right. Some folks in New England get their point across with a demeaning, condescending response. But in the South we're use to that so no harm. But I would be very careful calling anybody out. This just ain't the site for it. I would imagine there are a few manly men on here that know what life's all about, along with the dreamers.

    Now back to camera's and stealing wood. :msp_smile:
     
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    Lorex wireless is a good system, I have six of them for areas that were not practical to hardwire and they have good night vision and two way audio, they also sit in "standby mode" and only turn on if motion is detected.
     
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    Have you tried the new fine tooth Snap-On ratchets?? Just upgraded some of my old stuff. NICE!! Like night and day but who am I to judge?? What were we talking about again?? Oh ya, the lunacy of landmines.
     
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    Why are you so worked up? Nobody here told you that you had to take the same security measures that others have, nobody told you that old tools are better than new. Some people are not comfortable with even locking their stuff up and that is ok, the great thing about this country is freedom to choose to do some things and the freedom to not choose to do things.
    A good example is my better half, she grew up in a town that was virtually crime free, her parents never locked anything and didn't have keys to pass on to the new owners when they sold their house, she always thought my measures were extreme until there was a rash of home burglaries in the area and one day she said to me that " she would like them to try that crap here" right then I knew she understood but did not always like security. I would love to return to a time when we didn't have to worry about such things but we can't so, I just prevent my family from being victimized.
    I own a lot of tools, I would say that most are relatively new by tool standards but every one has a story behind it and I want to have them when I need them, I am a bit of a tool junkie but, I always can find the right tool for whatever I'm working on. One of the things I consider irreplaceable is my fathers old Kennedy tool box, it sits on top of my eight foot monster as a constant reminder of my dad, all his tools are still in there, from old mckaig hatch wrenches to hand sharpened drill bits, there is even a picture of him and my mom taped to the inside of the lid that probably has been there for fifty years and because I have good security it will remain right where it is until my son has it someday.
     
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    This fella is the keeper of the wood here. The technology may be old, but it works and he could give a #### less about political correctness.............
     
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    Really?

    Properly designed, you have a pic of the burglars and their license plate.

    Perfect? No.

    Cops are paid to close incidents, not solve crimes.

    No witnesses -- human or electronic? Around here the Trooper might stop at some of the neighbors if he's not to busy, then close the incident for lack of leads to follow. They'll grumble a bit if you make paperwork for them by giving them serial numbers of the stolen stuff to enter into the database (hint: digital cameras). But other then filling out paperwork, there's not much they can justify spending time on doing -- it's not like they have a Huggy Bear they can go ask and find out who ripped off whom.

    Got pics of plates and people? Schwing.

    Visions of silver bracelets flashing in their head they can now spend the time to run the plates, see if anyone at the barracks recognize the people, and bring it to the Detectives at the local barracks to see if they want/need to be involved. Good number of criminals are not unknown to the police...having a really solid reason (like video) for getting a search warrant to serve on their property and see what else is found they show up looking for your chainsaws? Golden.
     
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    Dalmatian makes a great point about digital, if I so desired I could go back over a month a put every vehicle, every delivery and every person who stepped foot on my property on a thumb drive and hand it to the cops and they would have a time stamped color video as evidence to use, with audio so if there was a question about anything that was said or done they could review it exactly as it happened.
     
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    Stealing

    YouTube had a video on it a year or so back a guy on camera was steal firewood and died of heart attack on camera. I tried to find it but I guess it been took off. The family tried to sue the owner of the camera but didn't get any thing but the camera owner had to pay his lawyers. Worlds in bad way.
     
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    Good looking Rott.
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    My neighbor has one like that but it looks a bit taller. I was walking my dog one night in the dark and heading down my driveway toward the mailbox. My dog took off like a streak of lighting down the drive and disappeared past the beam of my flashlight. I hollered his name a few times as I walked to catch up. Normally when this happens he pops out of the woods carrying a possum, brings it to me and drops it at my feet. Not this time. All of the sudden this big, bear-like thing steps out of the woods in front of me. Stopped me dead in my tracks. Then my dog stepped out behind it, tail up and exhibiting playful demeanor. I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw my dog's reaction. That was my introduction to my neighbors newly adopted rottweiler.

    My dog spent 7 months at our local humane society before my family adopted him. It took a little time for all of us to adjust. The result is a really happy and incredibly loyal dog. When I say loyal I mean it. My 7 year old daughter and 10 year old son (at the time) were walking my dog on leash down our driveway when a pickup truck drove in and approached them. It was a local guy I know and he was looking for me. My dog wouldn't let him out of his truck. He wasn't going to let the guy anywhere near my kids. Mind you, this was on my property where my dog has every reason to act accordingly. On another occasion I had my daughter and dog with me while I was loading maple rounds into the bed of my truck at the edge of my cherry orchard. I saw a car drive up my driveway toward my dad's house. It didn't come back out and no one was home. We drove over to check out what was going on. Well, this chap was out of his vehicle and walking around the house where he had no business being. He scurried back toward his vehicle when he saw me pull up in my truck. We exchanged some words. Before I knew it my dog climbed out through the passenger door truck window my daughter had rolled down. He raced over to greet the fella, who got in his vehicle faster than you can say "boo." Dogs are good judges of character. It was abundantly clear that dude was overstepping his bounds. My dog put him in check. Game over.
     
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    I did not think I was worked up about anything. Superstitious yes, paranoid no. The open forum is a great place to exchange ideas and different points of view. Carry on doin’ whatever it is you do.
     
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    yup, adapted dogs know where their bread is buttered. spent 7years of my LEO career as a canine handler. always amazed me how many nimrods would try to screw with a 265lb. cop but really didn't care for playin with an 85 lb. German Shepherd.
     
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    I stand corrected. :msp_ohmy: Perhaps I should have said 'fight' instead of 'contest.' When I was a youngster, I got into a pissing fight with one of my brothers. No victor in that one, but I admit I was the bigger loser in that one. Pee tastes just as bad as it smells. :mad2::msp_ohmy:


    Bck to cameras now - the presence of a camera does not necessarily guarantee a lic plate. They might walk in, or cover it up, or blurry image, or bad angle/light, or any of a dozen reasons for no plate. Heck, the car might even be stolen. But I do agree that it would be an additional deterrant, which would make financial sense to install fake ones instead.

    I'm surprised no one here has mentioned geese yet. Those were brought up in other security threads before.
     
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    I set up a couple of foscam outdoor cameras and have it set up if you show up it emails me your pretty picture. One problem my darn turkeys trip them and I receive 20+ emails of their pretty faces. I hated to have to do this to keep my stuff but it does give one peace of mind.
     
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    makes me appreciate my life. never had keys to my house. leave my keys in the vehicles
     

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