lightening protection.

[beastmaster]

How much do you figure labor in installing a lightening protection system in a tree. I can do it, and understand materal costs, but how much to charge for labor? I have to give a bid next week for a tall pondarosa pine.
Could someone give me a ball park figure what it cost to install in a tree. I know there are many Variables, but there has to be a market value price.
Any advice would be Appreciated . Thanks.

 

[tree MDS]

"Lightening protection". Lol, sounds like some sort of insurance policy a hair salon would be required to carry.

 

[derwoodii]

How much do you figure labor in installing a lightening protection system in a tree. I can do it, and understand materal costs, but how much to charge for labor? I have to give a bid next week for a tall pondarosa pine.
Could someone give me a ball park figure what it cost to install in a tree. I know there are many Variables, but there has to be a market value price.
Any advice would be Appreciated . Thanks.

your x 2 team climber rates x expected hours needed plus a % for intellectual property and dont forget to advise customer will need the system checked for continuity each ## years & $ cost of warning signage place on tree to advise no touch earthed system.

 

[derwoodii]

today i was up top a 20 foot aluminum ladder reaching high over my head into tall tree canopy with HT stihl battery pole saw right under a fast descending lighting filled storm front... uh oh

 

[Zale]

Sounds like you only need one point. How long will it take to climb to the tippy top? What are ground conditions like for digging? Once you have the point installed, it goes pretty fast. 2 men half a day plus cost of material?

 

[treeseer]

This one took me 55 minutes
http://www.isa-arbor.com/quizbank/313/The_Case_of_the_Mutililated_Muehlenbergii.pdf

You belong to VTIO?

 

[derwoodii]

This one took me 55 minutes
http://www.isa-arbor.com/quizbank/313/The_Case_of_the_Mutililated_Muehlenbergii.pdf

You belong to VTIO?

um ?? treeseer if you mean me i dont financially but i do support them as volunteer eg climb comps and Arb event camps apparently im the axe thow competition specialists the next one next month in February

 

[anlrolfe]

Components need to be UL96 compliant which are more rugged than just regular grounding components.

Harger Lightning & Grounding has excellent technical assistance and if you still need to purchase may be your 1-stop shopping & design/build resource.
http://www.harger.com/harger.html

As a side note, most people think this is all about protecting the tree, that's partly true but where will that tree fall after it gets struck and will it catch fire?

The last big installation of lightning protection in trees that I've seen was at Jefferson's Monticello. The trees were venerable but the structure irreplaceable.

Something to consider adding into any contract is that without "total system bonding" a lightning strike can reenter adjacent building through other underground infrastructure and that the installation "may require additional work from a qualified electrician". CYA...

 

[treeseer]

um ?? treeseer if you mean me i dont financially but i do support them as volunteer eg climb comps and Arb event camps apparently im the axe thow competition specialists the next one next month in February

Ah well okay then. I went to a meeting in August to present on Regenerative Pruning. It was a good group; active; you might consider uncorking that wallet....

 

[jefflovstrom]

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...d1090f1be9e1c70220d0c38a4dd9b70f&action=click

Jeff

 

[beastmaster]

Well after reading up and asking questions i completed my first lightning protection job. So far its payed very well as far as amount of time it took. I have 3 more tree to do yet. This one was the biggest and most spread out.
It had been struck before and i did a lot of deadwood removal
Curiosity enough it was struck before about 3/4 of the way up and not at the highest points.
I learn the hardest part of this job was putting in the ground cable and ground rod. Had to dig a ditch 15 feet through rocky soil but got lucky, after using a post hole digger to get 2 ft down the 8ft ground rod was easily driving down its full length.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Well after reading up and asking questions i completed my first lightning protection job. So far its payed very well as far as amount of time it took. I have 3 more tree to do yet. This one was the biggest and most spread out.View attachment 623985
It had been struck before and i did a lot of deadwood removalView attachment 623986
Curiosity enough it was struck before about 3/4 of the way up and not at the highest points.
I learn the hardest part of this job was putting in the ground cable and ground rod. Had to dig a ditch 15 feet through rocky soil but got lucky, after using a post hole digger to get 2 ft down the 8ft ground rod was easily driving down its full length.

Rock and Roll!, be safe Wade!!!
Jeff