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Loggers Rough on Bars?

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by Wood Doctor, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Wood Doctor

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    Rough? Sometimes I think that's an understatement. Take a look at this one:
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    It was a 36" bar. The logger was half way through bucking a 22" log with his MS661 when he ran out of fuel. He went to his truck to get the fuel can and left the saw in the log temporarily. When he turned around, the skid loader operator was backing up right next to the log and failed to see the bar sticking out and caught the nose of the bar with the wheel. Wham!

    The chain was wrecked also. I really see no way of saving any of this. The bar was in rather god shape, so that's about $150 down the drain. I've seen some bent bars and mangled tips, but they don't get much worse than this.:(
     
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    That,s down to the fallers you employ our guys are no harder on bars than average
     
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    I would fix it.
     
  4. Wood Doctor

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    Are you kidding me? How? Even if the rivets could be drilled out and removed, the bar then has to be straightened and untwisted. The sprocket tip has to be replaced. The end of the bar that mates with the sprocket tip is deformed. The chain is toast and has to be replaced.

    I'm all ears.:rolleyes:
     
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    Anything can be fixed/repaired if one is capable, has the equipment and the experience to pull it off, one gets experience by doing, not reading.
     
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    I do not think Stihl wants me to replace that bar, the tip, and the chain by working for several hours in my shop. Stihl wants me to buy a new bar and chain. That's what the Stihl dealer said. It's as simple a that.

    I might even tear up $150 in tools trying to rebuild it.
     
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    Your call, do as you like.
     
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    Remember, a new bar tip costs $30 these days alone. Now add in all the rest. I think that's why the logger showed me these damages. He knew it was a lost cause, even for the $0/hr labor charges that I offer him.
     
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    A new 36" ES bar is like $96 or something like that last time I ordered one.
     
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    Can it be repaired? Most likely.

    BUT

    What is your time worth? If you have more time than money, by all means fix it. Otherwise you're better off throwing it into the scrap steel bin and buying a new one.
     
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    No way I even attempt a fix.....strength has been compromised.
    Trash it and move on.
     
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    Of course Stihl /husky /Blount want you to by a new bar chain & bits that's how they stay in business If you were to spend $150 on repair tools they would be there for the next bar repair job because if you employ the same fallers it will be a repeat performance if it's a case of down right "couldn't give & toss next replace ment present the culprit with the bill
     
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    What's a skid loader?
     
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    Guessing he meant skidder, not that it's relevant. Either would would've bent the bar
     
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    bar, chain is consumables to a logger.
    so are saws - tools - they get broke sometimes.
    skidder op not likely to see bar tip in tree.
     
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    Del_ Life is but a song we sing.

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    I don't understand the logic of leaving an empty saw in a log kerf. It's got to come out to be fueled anyway.

    Especially with heavy equipment running around.

    I'm thinking the logger was inexperienced.
     
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    Most likely true, but a good number of us are weekend warriors who spend most of Monday critiquing what everyone else did over the last week. That, and the weather is teh suck, so our judgemental dickness carries over into Tuesday.
     

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