Look out OWB owners. theyre gunning for you

[aarcuda]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/nyregion/18wood.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

You might have to register to read this. if you cant, I'll post the text if you want.

 

[begleytree]

They just don't seem (to me) to be very well thought out. I thought about one in the new home, but after some research that showed constant heavy smoke, I decided to adopt a wait and see attitude in hopes they would be improved shortly. Perhaps with some regulation, they will improve enough for me to take another look at them, at a later date.
A guy about 5 miles from me has one, he lives in a small valley cut through by a state highway. at any given time the OWB is burning, the entire valley is smoked up, and a 1/2 mile of state highway is completely obscured. That I don't need, and I live out in the country.
-Ralph

 

[Butch(OH)]

:deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
Anyone who thinks that more regulation stemming from the East coast socialists and the EPA is the answer to the problems of the world is,, well,, shall I be kind today and say malinformed??

Ralph, If your up C Oihio way give me a hollar and you can watch my cancermaster shoot smoke plumes, you wont need any directions just follow the smoke trail you can see from 270 in Columbus, LOL. Seriously I burn clean dry wood and still cannot believe the fuss over OWBs when the problem is what people burn in them, and of course summer time burning which I am not going to do. I have two close neighbors who are thinking about one themselves, Oh well if you wanna see one burn clean, dinner, saw talk and general BS'en and what not gimmie a shout.

 

[begleytree]

:deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
Anyone who thinks that more regulation stemming from the East coast socialists and the EPA is the answer to the problems of the world is,, well,, shall I be kind today and say malinformed??

Ralph, If your up C Oihio way give me a hollar and you can watch my cancermaster shoot smoke plumes, you wont need any directions just follow the smoke trail you can see from 270 in Columbus, LOL. Seriously I burn clean dry wood and still cannot believe the fuss over OWBs when the problem is what people burn in them, and of course summer time burning which I am not going to do. I have two close neighbors who are thinking about one themselves, Oh well if you wanna see one burn clean, dinner, saw talk and general BS'en and what not gimmie a shout.

Far enough Butch, I might just take you up on that.
A guy gave a pos rep the other day with the comment that it was good to see me posting again. Now I say I want to wait and see if these improve, and am not the only one who said that on this thread, and suddenly I am the Ralph Nader of OWBs. Go figure. No wonder I rarely post!
-Ralph

 

[MS-310]

I cant wait till this becomes a problem........ OWB's rock!

 

[Butch(OH)]

Far enough Butch, I might just take you up on that.
A guy gave a pos rep the other day with the comment that it was good to see me posting again. Now I say I want to wait and see if these improve, and am not the only one who said that on this thread, and suddenly I am the Ralph Nader of OWBs. Go figure. No wonder I rarely post!
-Ralph

Gee Ralph I didnt know you were the sensitive type, The dead horse beating and EPA rant was for the topic in general, sorry

guess I orta be more clear on such

 

[Husky137]

suddenly I am the Ralph Nader of OWBs.
-Ralph

Nawww, that's spike.

 

[ktm rider]

Why not just get an INDOOR boiler and put it in your garage. No more people throwing a fit about your OUTDOOR boiler. They are, ( atleast mine) is way more efficient than the OWB that I sold to buy my indoor unit. and best of all , you don't freeze your tail off when you are tending the fire...

 

[highpower]

:deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
Anyone who thinks that more regulation stemming from the East coast socialists and the EPA is the answer to the problems of the world is,, well,, shall I be kind today and say malinformed??

Ralph, If your up C Oihio way give me a hollar and you can watch my cancermaster shoot smoke plumes, you wont need any directions just follow the smoke trail you can see from 270 in Columbus, LOL. Seriously I burn clean dry wood and still cannot believe the fuss over OWBs when the problem is what people burn in them, and of course summer time burning which I am not going to do. I have two close neighbors who are thinking about one themselves, Oh well if you wanna see one burn clean, dinner, saw talk and general BS'en and what not gimmie a shout.

Butch I agree with what you said.
My Hardy stove sits most of the time with nothing coming out of the stack. When the damper opens and the blower comes on the stove smokes for a few minutes and then it gets so hot all that you see is heat waves. A baffle in the top of the stove turns the smoke for another trip through the fire to burn anything thats left to burn before going out the stack. I do not burn garbage just seasoned hard wood. My closest neighbor (500 yards) didn't even know I had the boiler until I told him this year. My two cents.

 

[stonykill]

I Installed An Owb This Season And Love It. I Produce In Worst Case, No More Smoke Than My 2 Woodstoves Did That I Previously Needed To Heat My Home. Most Times There Is Just A Little Puff Of Smoke. Its The People Who Are Burning Trash, Oily Pallets, Tires (don't Laugh, Seen It Happen) That Will Ruin It For All. Dry Hardwood, Or Even Dry Softwood Burns With Very Little Smoke.

 

[Hansson]

is it impossible to build a outdoor wood-fired boiler that have low emissions??

Dont you have engineers i the us?

 

[Rspike]

Nawww, that's spike.

Nope , not me ........ I'm just the kind of person to do "research" on an item before throwing away $5000.00+ on a heating unit.

I'm not here to say "I told you so" .........but..............

The manufactures of OWB need to get there head out of there ars and build a item to go with the times .

 

[jhellwig]

Our owb only puts out a lot of smoke when it just gets done burning. That is mostly when you have really green wood in it. I have been directly hit by the stream of smoke coming from the thing and it has never made me feel dirty.

 

[Butch(OH)]

Nope , not me ........ I'm just the kind of person to do "research" on an item before throwing away $5000.00+ on a heating unit.

I'm not here to say "I told you so" .........but..............

The manufactures of OWB need to get there head out of there ars and build a item to go with the times .

Well looky here, welcome back Spkie, from the pot bellied beer drink'en redneck crowd a AS.

Been boreing as the dickens around here since you left us for the tree huggers site. Did they throw ya out or did ya miss us??

 

[Oly's Stump]

Holly Cow!!! I was just about to sign papers on getting an outdoor wood boiler installed. After reading this post and the article, I am holding off on that 8,000.00 purchase. I am going to wait and see what happens or do some research on corn burners.

 

[cord arrow]

People Who Are Burning Trash, Oily Pallets, Tires

yeah, it happens a lot...farmers around here don't think twice about tossin' dead stock in ' em either....they're not allowed to bury it....

it's always the same song....the abusers making it difficult for the conscience to survive without the long arm of the law....

i get crap from time to time about my outta date old woodstove...but i'll tell ya, nobody but nobody burns a more conscience fire than i do...

you guys that are doin' it right, my hat is off to you, however...we all realize what spawns government regulation, and that ain't never gonna change.

 

[Oly's Stump]

I was surfing the net on this issue and also found this report:
http://burningissues.org/pdfs/OWB-Report_March2006.pdf

 

[Butch(OH)]

I was surfing the net on this issue and also found this report:
http://burningissues.org/pdfs/OWB-Report_March2006.pdf

seems odd that if the OWBs all smoke and pollute so bad that every anti OWB web article uses the same 4-5 pics?? I wonder if railroad ties and tires would make smoke in an EPA stove? or how about rotten and wet wood??

Gimmie an article that doesn't contain flagrant lies and misleading so-called facts ("all OWBS have large chambers so owners can burn trash and tires")

Until then I am going to watch mine burn clean and continue to wonder just how they get one to smoke so bad for the pictures they take and also wonder how truthful the rest of their facts are.

I know, same ole, same ole, sorry

 

[highpower]

The picture is obviously taken in the summer or late spring grass is green the leaves on the trees are green and I bet the wood is green. Being between a railroad bed and a garbage dumpster probably means they are throwing in RR ties and the dumpster gets what will not fit through the stove door.
I would really like to see the rest of this photo. Politicians are really bad about leaving out important details that makes their case look bad .The picture is also cropped awfully close. I would also like to see what they could possible be heating in the narrow space between the track and the road. Here the stove would be either the RR or the county's right of way. The barn is on the other side of the tracks so I don't think that is what they are heating.

 

[jhellwig]

"Industry literature indicates that a commonly sized residential unit can easily accommodate wood pieces that are 30 inches in diameter and 72 inches long."


Maybe if you bent the piece in the middle and didn't have to stick it in the door and the thing was completely empty.


The only thing other than wood that goes into out burner is PAPER.