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Made my 1st order with you guys this morning, forgot to ask something!!

Discussion in 'WesSpur Tree Equipment, Inc.' started by eye.heart.trees, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. eye.heart.trees

    eye.heart.trees arborjunky

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    What is the etiquette for contacting Nice Guy Dave regarding 'nitty gritty' rope questions? I don't want to catch him as he's trying to leave for lunch or something lol, because my Q's aren't things that are simply answered (well, I'm *hoping* they are for him!), I've been making threads on arbor forums and even a physics forum regarding dynamic loading in the context of ropes, I expect it could be a 5 or 10min call (if he's kind enough to entertain my Q's, I know it's not some guarantee, it's just that the guy on the Climbing Arborist podcast I listen to seems to be saying that Dave's there happily doing this very thing so I'd love to speak to him, learned much from his videos on youtube when I was just starting!)

    Regarding the order---- I'm a touch uneasy that UPS-tracking still says it's not received, but I know those systems are notoriously unreliable when it comes to updating-speed, but still I made the order this AM and was told it'd make today's mail, so if I'm being honest my 1st thing upon waking tomorrow will be eagerly rushing to the tracking-page tab I've got open to ensure my amazing order is en route (not only am I eager for the products in-general, but actually have a gig that I'm only able to do if I have a better bull-line so it'd be a major buzz-kill if there were any unnecessary delays, though with how great the service was on the phone my intuition is that it was shipped today & that UPS simply hasn't updated yet!)

    On the note of the service from today, the lady that helped me was incredible, I was purchasing a few of the <100' clearance pieces of Polydyne and I had to call in a couple times verifying things and she was just awesome, I'll refrain from naming her as I doubt all the employees are OK having their names online lol but it begins with a D and she was just tops, I will update this thread when I receive my order and will include an un-boxing album (I know, I'm a dork :p ), so long as there's no 180deg surprises I think you guys will be my go-to retailer for the rest of the remainder of my career (excepting rare exclusives like the Safebloc, I need another one and seems ebay & sherrill are my only outlets for that) but, provided my order arrives as-expected, I'll see zero reason to bother 'trying out' other retailers and will be a Wesspur-loyalist :)

    Thanks again for all you guys do, the clearance rope section was great for me I was able to get a 90', 1/2" polydyne and then a couple smaller but thicker polydyne lines, for my needs at the moment it will be a good setup, once I'm able to test the diameters through the Safebloc (got 1/2", 5/8" and 3/4" polydyne lines in my order) then I'll know which diameter is best and will be getting a 200' section from you guys of that poly, was initially intending to just get 150' of 9/16" or 5/8" but now I get to test the diameters, get to have the 90' 1/2" for immediate usage (literally letting me get my biggest job yet next week as it's blocking-down a bunch of Oaks at a client of mine's, I couldn't do large enough sections of it safely with my current line but with the Poly I can!) and after that gig - which'll probably take a week as it's going to be me and 1 other person doing nearly 10 Oaks - I'll be able to grab 200' of whatever was most-practtical in the Safebloc and, well, some other goodies as my wish-list has grown larger than it should be ;D

    Again, thank you sincerely for the service today, am eager to receive the order so I can officially be a wesspur-loyalist :D
     
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    eye.heart.trees arborjunky

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    SO sorry I forgot to update this!!

    A+++ transaction, will be using them again --- in fact with the 'value-created' by using their odd-length ropes, and the cheap metal thimbles ('rope thimbles' not 'rigging rings', though hold a 3/4" steel thimble and tell me that's not useful, they go up to 1" before they make a silly, non-linear size-jump, I think 7/8" or 1" ones are just 0.8lbs and even those sizes are like $10 max so....)

    I spent a scratch under $200 IIRC and got (after my splicings)
    - 90' of beautiful 1/2" Polydyne, 11k ABS and 3% elasticity :D Spliced-in a '7/16-->1/2 plastic thimble' into it, the tiniest type available, so that it could - just barely - still fit through the Safebloc & Beast ring. PET chafe-sleeving for last several feet of working-end, snugged-up on the splice-throat :)
    - 75' of "5/8" Polydyne, quotes because it's closer to 3/4" with calipers/IRL, hate that ropes do the "nominal specs" BS like lumber does... Spliced a 5/8" steel thimble into one end, allowing me to quickly girth-hitch the cord itself (say, if canopy-anchoring a speedline) or to make a 'floating satellite anchor' basically anywhere in a 60' distance from the nearest anchor-tie-down location! Heavy fabric-sleeved sheath over last several feet of working end for when it's tied-to logs (am aiming to keep enough 'biners & nylon slings around that I can always clip-in my rigging line instead of tying it around stuff!)
    - a ~18', 3/4" Polydyne sling for my Safebloc, spliced tight (but not cinching!) into the p.dyne and with a back-spliced (Samson style, only *way* heavier taper to reduce thickness of tip) end, can tie this sucker anywhere :D
    - a ~15', 3/4" sling with a 3/4" steel rope thimble spliced into one end, and a locked&tapered backsplicing for very easy 'pass-through' when knotting it up (with the length of the (2) anchors I made from my ~40' of P.Dyne I can put the Safebloc or that ~30mm thimble as 'satellite' anchors anywhere, although the Safebloc sling is intended as my primary/default terminal anchor can't see why that's not 'a norm' by now :p )

    Also got some Sterling 23kN nylon loops of various sizes, so with some odd spliced stuff I have I've basically got all the log-slinging material I'd need for small jobs without ever being tempted to tie my bull-ropes around tthe log itself, aiming to keep them in-service as long as possible (which is why I'm making such a diesel setup, the dispairty between the strength, and length, of the systems I can make isn't just random it's because I'm not doing large jobs I'm still learning so for my context I *could've* just gone with a bunch of the 1/2" - it's 11k ABS with 3% bounce after all, very very strong line - but the %ABS that a cord is subject to hurts it more, linearly, based on %ABS that's hitting it, ergo if you're rigging something down you should use your strongest rope because that's how to do the lowest '%ABS-stretch' insult to any of your ropes!)

    With this setup (and some hardware like biners & lil pulleys for zipping), I should be able to do as much as I'm capable of safely doing and 'grow-into' it as I practice more (got a great Oak & woods out back where I practice :) ), can't believe I got (2) strong-AF cords (the 5/8 is a 19k line!!), (2) super-long anchors spliced all perfectly, and the loops I needed to have a full fledged heavy-duty setup to mess with! Only item I had for the kit, besides the loose Safebloc, was the 5' Notch 3-ringed X-sling on 3/4" tenex, but now that means I've got 3 anchors and 2 strong as hell ropes, and the nylon loops for running things in a way that'll maximize the line (and balance/control of the pieces!), for just under $200.....THANKS WESSPUR!!!!! My next order will certainly be through you guys (so long as it's not the Safebloc order, I want at least 1 more of those and it seems Sherrill/notch/treestuff is keeping it exclusive? Thanks to the 3/4" polydyne I got from your mark-down section I have a WAY superior Safebloc sling compared to the Notch/OEM variety, polydyne isn't just stronger tensile/static ABS than tenex is but it's WAY more dynamic, it's also thinner (both are >3/4 but the tenexx is even more over-sized) The jacketing on the polydyne is so tough you don't even feel much need for sleeves/sheaths, whereas with Tenex I couldn't imagine using it w/o a sleeve the stuff just pics so easily!)

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    For $200, and several hours splicing, I couldn't be happier (and already had the Safebloc of course but still for just under $200 when that's 90' of 1/2 and 75' of 5/8? SO stoked :D !!!
     
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    eye.heart.trees arborjunky

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    I should add tags in case it helps google because that's ^ literally the *only* double-braided Safebloc sling in google-images if it's showing up properly (I searched for like 5min before doing the splice as I was curious how tight others were making the eye, couldn't find a *single* example....Upon inspection it seems Sherrill/Treestuff don't wanna sell you the Safebloc alone, only spliced-into their choice of sling (AKA tenex tec...), charging $180 for the bloc and forcing it as only in their tenex sling has to be a good part of why these aren't more widely-adopted, things are such ingenious devices am hoping to get at least 1 more (for basal usage) if not 2 more (one on the base of a tree, and 2 for double-safebloc-whipping something - am not a madman and not intending to go throwing weights I'm not ready for, am just working-up to heavier stuff, FWIW, don't wanna get the worried faux-concern ' be safe' comments lol I am sure I'm safer than 95%+ of climbers am OCD about it :p )
     

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