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MS461 or MS461R ?

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  1. Glockem45

    Glockem45 ArboristSite Member

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    So, I want to buy a new MS461 with the Large Wrap handle and the Large Dogs with a 25" bar. I thought this is a common saw. On the Stihl website, they call it the MS461R. So I have contacted 4 different dealers locally to order this for me, and they all want to know why I want the MS461R "Rescue Saw". None of them seem to know about the regular R version. Am I calling this model/version the wrong thing? What should expect to pay for this here in Virginia?

    Yes I know, probably a NEWB question, but I had to do it since my local dealers can't tell me.
     
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    No its not you..its not uncommon for stihl dealers to be idiots and have no idea about what they offer.
     
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    Trx250r180 Saw polisher

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    Ask them for the wrap handle model. My Stihl dealer had to be educated about the R model as well.
     
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    Fire houses usually order their rescue saws from one specific dealer. So it would be very easy to work at another shop and never hear about one.
     
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    Deets066 Firewood hack

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    True, but if Stihl makes it, any dealer should know about it
     
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    1Alpha1 100% USDA certified abnormality-free.

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    Depends on who's looking for me.....and why.
    This must be the full-wrap handle.

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    I've been talking to three different Stihl dealers about the "R Package" and they all say different things in regards to what exactly it consists of.

    Not a single one of them knew anything about the above wrap handle with the scrench older.
     
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    This isnt a difficult thing to understand..

    Theres an "R" model.

    Theres a "RESCUE" model.

    Case closed.
     
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    Deets066 Firewood hack

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    That's only a 3/4 wrap
     
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    Trx250r180 Saw polisher

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    That's the "Rescue" model ,rescue has the scrench holder ,carbide chain and costs more .

    Here is my R model ,it looks similar ,i add the Rescue scrench holders to my saws now .
     

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    1Alpha1 100% USDA certified abnormality-free.

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    Depends on who's looking for me.....and why.
    Dealers are saying there's a 1/2 wrap and a full-wrap.

    One said that you can get the Rescue handle on a 461-R if you want.
     
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    The handlebars on the rescue and regular R model are the same , if you want a scrench holder order one 1128-891-8600
     
  13. Deets066

    Deets066 Firewood hack

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    I've also had dealers tell me there was no such thing as roller catch, never heard of square ground chain, no outer dog for an 036, and no such thing as an HO oiler.
     
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    Its borderline scary to me how clueless people can be about products they offer.
     
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    Deets066 Firewood hack

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    I finally found a dealer that knows his chit.

    He's a little weird though! :crazy:

    :cheers:
     
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    I have found it easier to point to the part i want on their screen ,wanted a 441 sprocket cover ,they said did not have that part # ,i asked if they had the loaded one with dog and roller catcher and chip guard ,wa la they had one all of a sudden on the shelf in stock .
     
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    The dealer look up , I think, has it under wrap, not R.

    Just went thru this with my dealer, and he knows his stuff!!!! The wrap model doesn't even show up in his dealer catalog because it is a west coast item.


    He found it, the distributor had 6, and hardly ever sells them--- duh, if ain't in the catalog, how the frig u supposed to order one. They were doing a great deal on them since 441 was on BO.
     
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    I don't know what none of that is...do you have a picture book? a ho oiler sounds like something youd do before you put them to work on the corner...is there a machine for that? I'm thinking of getting into the pimp game...ive been listening to a lot of Too $hort this week and he makes it sound easy.
     
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    [​IMG]Here is my 441RCM. They don't list it on the website but my dealer ordered it for me. He had no idea what he was ordering either.
     
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    That's some funny chit there!
     
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