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New to me Stihl 038AV Super, photos and a few questions

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by LondonNeil, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. a. palmer jr.

    a. palmer jr. Tree Freak

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    It's better than an 063 chain on an 050 bar! I unknowingly had this combination once, couldn't figure out why my saw lost power when it got warmed up...the bar apparently was pretty well worn to even accept the 063 chain..
     
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    I've been successful in lightly machining a worn 050 bar to accept 057 chain. However, I've never gotten a worn 057 bar to accept 063 chain. Trying to widen narrow bar grooves for wider chain is not exactly my cup of tea. Some say you will never get the groove or its shoulders shaped right.
     
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    I sure wasn't trying to do that, I got it mixed up with another bar I guess. I took it out to cut and it worked fine for a few minutes. Glad I had an extra saw with me.
     
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    I'd ditch the screen/wire air filter and get a flocked one. The wire AFs let in lots of fines.
     
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    LondonNeil ArboristSite Guru

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    cheers, yep the one I'm looking at is one of the fleece/flock ones.
     
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    i.m not a big fan of aftermarket parts after working on some other guys saws that bought some of that stuff. just worked on a ms 271 that had a AM air filter on it and it was junk.we did put an AM carb on my buddies 044 just to see how it holds up. if you have a good stihl shop check them out first. just my 2 pence.:rolleyes:
     
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    Yes I've a very good stihl and husky dealer just 4 or so miles away, others have said the same as you Steve so if I get 5 minutes tomorrow I'll call and get prices for the filer caps, filters and clutch drum/drive sprocket. If the OEM parts are a decent price I will get at least some of them.
     
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    ask them if they have any old parts saw that you might be able to get some good used parts like gas and oil caps. maybe even an old saw that has a good sprocket on it. never know. here's my dealers "graveyard". iv.e gotten a few good used parts for 1/2 of new price.
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    I see a lot of 029s in that mess..
     
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    that pic was just the 029 shelf. lots of stuff there. it is a mess but Lowell the mechanic knows right where to go if i need a part. they also have a few drawers of NOS parts that i look thru from time to time.
     
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    If I had the money I'd like to find something like that and make them an offer for all of certain models like the 029. That would keep me busy for years! I just finished another 029 today..I really wanted to make an 039 out of it but the OEM piston and cylinder were good..
     
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    Good idea, but I've just seen it after coming off the phone to them so too late. All ordered as they are reasonably priced. After VAT (Value Added Tax, its our sales tax, 20%) the clutch drum, flock/fleece air filter, fuel filter and the 2 filler caps is a few pence under £40 so it didn't seem worth faffing with Chinese AM stuff.
     
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    20%, damn politicians!!!
     
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    Oh carp. I've found farther trouble. I'm starting to fear this 'saw could become money pit. Not the saw's fault, but my lack of knowledge means I find a fault, buy a part and fix that fault then find the next fault, and so on. Oh well. The current fault I need opinions on how to proceed please. I got a new plug, took the old one out and happened to look at the plug port more carefully than I did the other day, and instantly spotted why the plug wasn't sealing before. The cylinder's plug port has been helicoiled and badly, the helicoil isn't right in and half a turn or so is sticking out the top of the threads in the cylinder, clearly preventing the plug's sealing washer from sealing. I'm embarrassed I didn't spot this before, and of course when I spot it today my dad is stood next to me so yep, I get that look from him and feel about 4 years old. So I'm now considering options ranging from:
    1. my bodger dad's suggestion of just cut off the protruding bit of helicoil and tighten the plug down tight then cross my fingers; through
    2. remove the helicoil and get another fitted; to
    3. lets not faff with helicoils, let's take a look at a new piston and cylinder.

    Now I suspect i know what you guys will say (3), but against that is the growing feeling that I'm out my depth and could fix this problem only to find another, so I want to fix this problem as cheaply as possible. As for cost, a quick google and a 52mm farmertec piston and cylinder kit comes up on ebay uk for just under £18, so parts aren't much more than a helicoil, but... hmm, is the helicoil easier? That depends how well the cylinder was threaded and if a new 'coil will go in or if it needs threading more deeply.

    Lots of questions, not many answers, a bit of frustration and a big helping of extra embarrassment. Your comments are welcome, but please be nice, I'm feeling tender!
     
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    Maybe we should start a post about our money pit saws, I think I could come up with a couple...Seriously, I think I'd opt for a new piston and cylinder for the 038, which is what I did recently. I couldn't quite afford OEM for this old saw so I went aftermarket...
     
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    i'll be the second to post in the money pit thread.:dumb2:
     
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    Ha ha! Yeah I suspect I'm not the first, nor will I be he last money pit owner!
     
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    I'd suspect that everyone who has been on AS for over a year has at least one money pit saw..Lots of times it's not the saw you'd suspect..
     
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    Won't cost anything to try facing off the helicoil.
     
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    Yep, might last a while. Just depends on how it looks, we didn't see any pics did we?
     

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