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OK ... "462 vs 572"

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by cary911, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. svk

    svk A little bit of everything

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    The only Stihl dealer around that is still a traditional saw dealer and not selling saws on the side (which is quite a drive from me) will make loops in any DL count I want.
     
  2. MaddBomber

    MaddBomber ArboristSite Operative

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    To be fair, those were stock saws.
    From what I've heard, in stock form, the 462c is faster but after porting, the 572xp really comes alive... (longer stroke?) Again, that's what I've heard, it's purely conjecture.
     
  3. TheDarkLordChinChin

    TheDarkLordChinChin My name Borat, I like you

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    From what I have seen on Hotsaws101's channel the 462 doesnt exactly become a beast when ported. The 461 on the other hand...
     
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    461 also has more displacement and stock for stock gets beat by the smaller 462. 461 also weighs more.

    This basically means there's less overhead from the factory...there's not as much room for improvement. I would also expect a ported 72cc engine to be less powerful than a ported 76cc engine...in any saw.
     
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  5. TheDarkLordChinChin

    TheDarkLordChinChin My name Borat, I like you

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    Yeah, thats what I was getting at.
     
  6. Andyshine77

    Andyshine77 Tree Freak

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    Haven't done any importing to either the 462 or 461, but I believe one of the main limiting factors with the 462 is the small carburetor more than anything else. And all saw builders will achieve different results.
     
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    I've heard the same about the carb.
    Doesn't the 461 have a longer stroke than the 462?..... I'm fairly certain the 572xp does as well.....?
    From my experience, stroke really makes a difference when other parameters being equal.... Especially when ported.
     
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    I seem to remember Mr Snelling made a beastly 462c awhile back. I remember he was very satisfied with the gains. Don't remember if he compared it to a 461 though.
     
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    And he will stop and chat about saws.
     
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  11. Stihl 041S

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    Don’t cut straight down.
    Angle it a bit and the noodles are shorter and break easier.
     
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    chipper1 Living Life to the Full

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    You guys don't even alert me, just start without me :cry:.
    In the box.
    It's in a box, but it's not at the house lol,



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    It really depends on what you're doing with them. For work I prefer the mt/at saws, I enjoy the efficiency of them and the options on them.
    I'll start by saying one thing they can do that the 2166 or 7900 can't, they can hold onto their bar nuts, that's gotta be worth something :).
    Trust me I enjoy the 2166/72 2171/72 365/372's and the 7900/7910's, I have more of them than most, but for overall efficiency in cut the new saws take the old ones easily.
    Which husky was that Lee :D.
     
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    farmer steve outstanding in my field, 5150

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    I've tried all different angles Rob. Some wood seems worse than others. The new 261 MT is the same. I don't think stihl has the m-tronic saws programmed for noodling.:laugh:
     
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    I hate getting a mail stuck in wood.
     
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    Power, cut times & porting gains get discussed most with these new 70cc offerings, I think what often gets lost is just how nice they both are to use as a tool in your hands for hours on end. I think both saws are winners that 'they got right'. And each saw has quite different personalities.
     
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    Our local Husqvarna dealer carried Stihl and dropped them for same reason. They do not bad mouth them and repair them with John Deere/Stihl dealer down the road. They will only say their support was lacking. Just say you do not care for Husqvarna, I do not care for Stihl, over priced, part prices are insane, parts are slow to receive and lack any kind of qualified dealer support in this area.
     
  17. cary911

    cary911 ArboristSite Guru

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    Even with a good Stihl dealer here, I agree with ya. Husqvarna overall is a lot less red tape. I prefer their saws foremost. And hope they continue.

    Someone made a valid point. Though Stihl's #1 in sales, doesn't necessarily mean their more profitable. That 462 kicked out some good saws.
     
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    Still too early to make a solid call on either 462 or 572. Increased testing before releasing them was a good move for both manufacturers. I bet those test users maintained or cleaned their saws looking for problems. Turn them loose to general abusers of saws and it may have a different outcome. Maintaining to many is filling fuel and oil tanks and start cutting, no cleaning of fins, covers, coil area or air cleaner. Have seem some, so called pro's running rolled over bars, beat, dirty, grease, pitch covered saws and wonder why they would abuse money making tools to that point.
     
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    I've run 36's on both of my ported 372's (old edition and xpw). They pulled them like my stock 395 but I couldn't lean on them as much. No problem with oiling in very pitchy Doug Fir bars buried. I was bucking a 60" log and tried all three saws in it with the same bar and chain to compare.
     
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    I was looking at the 462, then saw the 500i. Now I am wanting the 500i.
     
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