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Discussion in 'Firewood, Heating and Wood Burning Equipment' started by sirbuildalot, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. sirbuildalot

    sirbuildalot ArboristSite Guru

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    I am debating purchasing this to handle the large and/or nasty stuff. From there I'll process it to firewood with the Super split.



    https://www.ironandoak.com/tractormount/index.html



    My question is does anyone have this specific splitter, and if so, how do you like it. The cycle time and tonnage are dependent on the tractors hydraulics. The Kioti has 16.5 GPM of flow, so I think it should run it pretty optimally.
     
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    What do they get for one of those? Looks pretty basic. I see used ones on our local Craigslist for under $600 pretty often. What model kioti do you have? Remember that to achieve the rated flow you have to run at wot, which may or may not suit your fancy.
     
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    My tractor is a Kioti NX4510.

    This model splitter is about $1,500. The reasons I like it is because it appears to be pretty heavily built, and has a log cradle and 4 way wedge as available options. There was a decent looking dual direction PTO splitter on CL for $700.
     
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    Usually you can buy a used three point one on CL or a farm sale pretty cheap as a lot of folks have went to one on a skid loader. I used a home built three point one on a 3010 JD for years it worked good. I had a 6 inch dia cylinder off a cat loader wasn't a speed demon but would bust those big blocks . Just lower three point to the ground and roll them on.
     
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    i always thought of buying a old used one and modifying it so it can be mounted on the tractor upside down. and controlled while sitting on the tractor. then you could roll a log under it or ,drop it on a log... I have just been noodling the really big stuff in half ,so its manageable. and use my loader to get it on my splitter. and use the bucket as a table, then i dont have to bend down much and it goes quick.
     
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    Like one of these?

    https://www.skidsteers.com/log-spli...MI1_e6yZ3h3wIVDVuGCh2KnQJZEAQYAyABEgKebPD_BwE
     
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    Your Kioti's 16.5 gpm is probably the main and power steering curcuits added together. Some manufacturers report that number even though there's no way to use them together. The PS is usually around 5 gpm so you're looking at 11-12 for the splitter.

    Force will depend on the tractor's hydraulic pressure which is determined by the relief valve. Some people have turned their up after measuring and find it below spec.

    The drawbacks to using the tractor to run the splitter is that you can't use it for something else (some people use their loader to deliver rounds to the splitter or carry split wood away) and you have to run a large engine at PTO rpm to get the hydraulic flow.
     
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    I suspected the same thing, that's the way my similar sized Kubota is rated. I looked at tractordata and also on kioti's website and couldn't find out if it includes PS or not.
     
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    Whats the price?
     
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    $1,500
     
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    I sold a bushog brand 3pt splitter a couple years ago. My problem with the 3pt is it ties up the tractor and tractor flow and pressure just isnt adequate for productive splitting. I also dont like turning the tractors relief up beyond specs just to make the splitter work like it should.
     
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    would you be better off with a regular log splitter and use the tractor to load heavy logs to it?
     
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    I'm very happy with my three point splitter, but it has its own reservoir and 21 gpm single stage pump. I also have more than one tractor, so tying up a machine isn't an issue for me. It was however more than $1500.
     
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    I have a Supersplit. This would be strictly for large rounds and ugly twisted pieces.
     
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    I have a old 30 ton splitter made by Northern Tool with a Honda 13 HP and I use my tractor-loader to put the big heavy stuff on. .You have a loader bucket on that tractor?
     
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    Yes, as well as forks and a grapple. I may just lift them to the splitter with the tractor. I am actually in the process of making a 84"x 40" processing table that goes on the forks. I am thinking of putting a bunch of large rounds on it and lifting the table to the height of the splitter. Any halves, etc can be placed on the table while I whittle down the other half on the splitter.
     
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    That sounds like a great way to do it.
     
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    I will throw in my two cents. Came very close several times to buying the Iron and Oak as it is appears to be a quality rig and I have been impressed with the few of their stand alone models that I have rented. Came across a nice 3 pt. Bush Hog for $300 and brought it. Long intro to: It meets my needs though my little Deere only flows 8.3 gpm at 2500 psi. The noise reduction alone is enough for me to chose it over the typical stand alone.

    I don’t split a lot so I am able to stage my wood and don’t need my tractor to move wood while splitting. I typically split 30” and up red oak so I usually sit the splitter on the ground with the only attachment to the tractor being the two hoses.

    As to pressure my stock tractor puts out enough to arch the splitter beam. Presumably the Iron & Oak is much stronger. If not, then I doubt you will want one for tough to split wood.

    If you have a helper, a tractor mount driven off the tractor hydraulics will likely be too slow. A pto pump will speed up things.

    Your mileage may vary.

    Ron
     
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