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Discussion in 'Chainsaw Stickies' started by WesternSaw, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. kz1000

    kz1000 fixumologist

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    It has the bolt that holds it in the rear.
     
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    I wish my 52 wasn`t so dirty.

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  3. kz1000

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    damn!
     
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    How do you cut wood with that? Oh never mind


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  5. p61 western

    p61 western ArboristSite Guru

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    I think Jerry would know way better then me. I'm mostly a p series junky lol. I would like to get some of the 600 series saws though.
     
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    p61 western ArboristSite Guru

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    Looks terrible you need to send it my way.
     
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    That is a 650 cover but there is no guarantee that the saw itself is a 650 as that cover will fit on a 620 and 620S. Since covers are interchangeable on these three there is little one can do to tell which model you have without further investigation.
     
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    It is in pretty rough shape, that front handle shows a lot of wear.
     
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    Lmao I think not. That one hasn't seen fuel since the restoration right?
     
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    Probably have to measure the bore to be sure I guess. I wish the shipping hadn't gone through the roof. Around me there is little to no Pioneer saws around.
     
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    Its an original, not a restoration, airfilter has no spitback stains.
     
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    Oh wow definitely don't come across that very often.
     
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    All the 600 series saws ran the same cylinder and piston, one needs to be a Pioneer detective to find the differences.
     
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    Oh wow learning something for sure now. What would some of the differences be?
     
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    I have seen/found a good many saws that were never sold through the dealers, some had a part or two robbed from them while others were display models that never got sold. Most were in the hands of collectors or still in the long closed out dealerships. Shipping anything these days is totally ridiculous cost wise.
     
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    Yeah the shipping is really getting old quick, but there is still some Pioneer saws I want though. I bet it was neat finding the saws that just sat in dealerships.
     
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    It would take a book to get it all out there. Easiest stuff is the different air filters but then again almost all parts are interchangeable between all the models, carbs were changed, same thing so it comes down to porting numbers and port sizes. I own them all, have run them all and in real time there is no noticeable differences in cutting speed or power between the early saws and the last 650 that left the factory. There is some performance mods that some of us figured out but in reality the 600 series saws were big torque slower RPM cutting saws that handled .404 chisel chain in hardwood with good cutting speed in their day.
     
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    It takes time, detective work and some good acquaintances to find this stuff. I find Pioneer collectors will help each other out, many have been good to me.
     
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    Just from this thread I have learned a lot, and got maybe more than a few saws lol. It would be nice to visit Canada one of these days.
     
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    Making me wish KZ was still in Arizona lol. They are great looking saws compared to the competitors of the day.
     
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