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Discussion in 'Firewood, Heating and Wood Burning Equipment' started by Natster, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. Natster

    Natster ArboristSite Operative

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    I've been cutting wood all my life.
    Anybody know how much the smallest PowerSplitter sells for?
    And, how much more for the add on of the log lift?
    Thank you,
    Nate
     
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    Are you talking the single with conveyor, or the buggy?

    I believe the buggy with no conveyor is about $8,500, the single with conveyor $17,000-$18,000ish and the double with conveyor $25,000-$28,000

    Comparable to any other quality splitter pricewise. People gripe about the Supersplit being $2,500-$3,000. Can only imagine what they think about 25k.

    These are meant (especially the double), to compete with processors for guys seeking a cheaper solution, yet still able to pump out hundreds of cords a year.
     
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    I was thinking the buggy, with a lift.
    Conveyor is more than I want or need.
    I guess super split is more like what I can afford...someday.
     
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    Give them a call.
    I called PowerSplit this fall when the neighbors logged thirty acres of Beech (got the spelling right this time), and Oaks.
    They're not cheap but look to be set up well.

    I'd love to try one.
    I will try one before buying a processor (if and when).
    The plus side is handling any size wood, and doing so with less trash.
     
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    We will start our operation in a couple of weeks. Your more then welcome to come across the lake and try it out.
     
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    Lake is not frozen yet, and I don't have a boat, so guess I'll have to drive the long way around.
    Say when. I'll make the 225 mile trip. It will be time well spent.
     
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    I'm right down the road from you. I'd love to come see your operation. I drive past all the time and admire your neatly stacked bags. You mind if I drop in sometime if your running?
     
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    Power split awesome design except somebody is still bending over to buck up wood. Don't get me wrong I've would love to have there small unit.
     
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    I'd like to have a firewood processor. But, I only do about 20 cords a yr. For that, a super split will do the job. 8-9 yrs ago, I got a "box store hydraulic splitter". It was Lowes blue. It's been good. Even put a new motor on it. We got it used.
    We even made the mistake of adding hydraulic oil to it. Now, it runs slower. We didn't know that hydraulic oil comes in different thicknesses. I need to change the oil, back to the thin stuff. But, it still works. It's got a s l o w Cycle time.

    I think that a flywheel splitter will be fast enough. Nothing like wood heat, to warm your bones.
    It hard to find a used SS.
    But, at least, I'm not still using a maul!
    N
     
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    You can stop in any time your driving by if were working. Thinking around the third week in January when we will be done with sheds and starting up on firewood.
     
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    There is an outfit over the Illinois border from us that cuts and just halves all of there rounds on a multi-tek processor, then moves the halves over to the power split and does the finish splitting on the power split. This makes sense to me from a business stand point where you don't have the employees handling chainsaws then. Much safer and easier on the body. When we cut we will have 2 guys running saws and one guy in the machine bringing logs. You are literally running the saw for 7-8 hours a day. The fatigue factor is real, you need to keep your head on straight when running the saw. We do this for a day or 2 then switch over to splitting. Not sure if 2 guys bucking all day would be faster or slower than the processor, but if we cut for 1-2 days straight, that usually translates to 3-4 days of splitting. 5 cord a day is the best we have ever done with the power split.
     
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    There is a firewood operation just south of the airport in Milwaukee that runs a processor and a double Power split.
     
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    You could still use a cutting bench or two.
     
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    your right Sandhill Crane. Most of videos i've seen videos of power split customers they have piles as high as can be. Somebody had to buck that up. For the price of the power split you can buy a processor that does it all . Wouldn't that be more efficient? Like i said would love to have a power split. Somebody needs to come out with a bucking machine/trailer. A trailer that picks up logs to either buck them up or load on to your trailer. I think it would be easier then hauling a skid steer or what ever. I could use this. I do have a few ideas. Plus you could load trailer up without skid steer in the way. Just a though.
     
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    Power splits advantage over a processor is split size can be whatever you want it to be. Processor is 4 way, 6 way or whatever. Resplits are a pain for them. How many of the big processor guys on here have another splitter for the big stuff, seems to be a few looking for them anyway?
     
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    Ok, I've been looking at these for a few years. I'm leaning toward them over a processor because all I process is tree service wood. Not a whole lot of pole type wood in tree service unless a property lot is being cleared. And then it comes at a cost. A cut up tree from a yard is almost always free if you hook up with the right tree services but you must take the good with the bad to have a good marriage.
    So who has one (with conveyor)? Sounds like T. Mainus does? The testimonials on their website all look convincing enough to buy one but what makes someone do a testimonial video? Is there kick back from PS? Are these owners really that happy? Do they just want to be on social media? Please tell me......Another thing is I cant find any other videos other than the ones by PS.
    In all videos I have yet to see anyone split a piece of wood with knots or a fork in it.
    Can the machine handle some knotty wood? Has anyone who owns one put any questionable wood through it?
    Just looking for a little info. Thanks
     
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    There great looking machines but they seem alittle high priced. Don't get me wrong I would like to get one. Just alittle pricey.
     
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    I am from the school that when I am going to lay out the kind of money a loaded up power split is and have never ran one or personally known someone that has owned one I am going to talk to the company and find were the nearest one is and drive there and spent a day with the owner and machine even if I have to drive 500 miles to get there and spend a night in a motel. I don't want a O Sh-- moment after I buy it. A good example is when I bought a tree saw for my skid loader for cleaning up my pasture. I talked to a lot of sales folks looked at a lot the video's but I finally found a guy that had been running a pasture, field cleaning business for 20 years he had been threw several brands of saws. I drove four hours to spend the day with him well worth the time and money. I did buy the high end saw he was using and have ran it for six years with zero problems other that normal maintenance.
     
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    I agree with you rancher2 . Just find somebody close to me.
     
  20. T. Mainus

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    We have the double splitter with the 25' conveyor and one log lift. Ours is older, it says Timber Devil on it. We actually bought ours from Multi-Tek up in Prentice WI. Big firewood guy from Minnesota traded it in on a Multi-Tek Processor. Our main business is storage sheds, we do that April through January, then we split firewood from Jan to April. I have 2 employees that we try to keep busy through the winter so instead of laying them off thats why we do firewood. So for me the Powersplit makes perfect sense seeing that I have 2 guys to operate it. I think the testimonials on Utube is just Powersplits way of marketing their product. I'm sure they just asked their owners to do a little video about the machine, did they pay them for it, who knows? We started with an Iron and Oak splitter, moved to a Timberwolf TW-5 with a conveyor, sold all that and bought the power split when it came available. There is no comparison between the the TW-5 and the power split. The ergonomics of the power split will make you wonder how you ever split wood before. Its hard to explain but as soon as you try one the light bulb goes on in your head and your like wow, this is so much easier. By splitting the wood with it standing on end, you don't have to wrestle it. It just stands there while you split it. You grip the piece from the outside and hold it together while you dice it up with the wedge. then the whole thing goes in the conveyor all spilt up. If your splitting stringy stuff you have to pull it apart some times but not to often.

    We buy all of our wood from the loggers up north so we usually get pretty decent stuff. We get some crotches and knots but you just have to read the wood like any other splitter to see the best way to slice it up. The machine can split most of it but we do get some gnarly stuff that it just won't split. You have to remember were selling our wood, customers don't like gnarly looking stuff anyways, so if it takes to much time to split it we just throw it on the side. My neighbor has a big outdoor burner and I just drop off the gnarly stuff for him to burn. I don't like stressing the splitter anyways with the nasty stuff. You also have to watch when your splitting the nasty stuff sometimes the piece will kick out sideways and throw it at the guy working next to you. We do most of our splitting in the winter so it is usually covered in ice and snow, that makes it slip on the table as well. I've considered trying to put some kind of divider in to protect the other guy from that happening. Your knees and thighs will take a beating from wood hitting them if your not careful. You also have to try to cut all your pieces pretty square. If you have a bunch a crooked cuts, along with snow and ice, it can be pretty miserable trying to keep the pieces under the wedge.

    All in all its a pretty good machine. We do get wood caught in the conveyor a couple times a day. Sometimes at the top and sometimes at the bottom. With it being all hydraulic drive though its not a big deal. Its not like your going to bust a chain like an old grain elevator. Louis at Powersplit is really nice to deal with. We have ordered parts from him that are specific to the machine no problem. If its a universal type part, he will tell you what they use so you can try to source it stateside instead of shipping it from Canada. He will also give you the names of any owners near you to go look at there machines as well.

    The offer still stands if anyone wants to come look at it just let me know. Roscoe 294 not sure where in Michigan you are but Sandhill Crane wants to come look at it as well. I am south of Milwaukee. The ferry across the pond should be starting soon as well if you don't want to drive through Chicago.
     
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