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PPE in your opinion

Discussion in 'Commercial Tree Care and Climbing' started by Capitalist, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. lone wolf

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    I can hardly hear thunder i'm so deaf from tree work.
     
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    Which brings this up wear hearing protection !
     
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    I don’t cut wood nearly as much as you do
     
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  5. Capitalist

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    Thats the other great frustration of my life.
    People who talk like I'm not moving and moving things that blocks out their sound entirely. I am going deaf.
    Had an incident with a doctor removing a wasp from my ear that messed up my left. I have never worn ear protection. My right ear took the brunt of that from me turning my head.

    Or the people that talk to me when I am winded... Thats a safety issue.

    "What are you doing tomorrow?"

    "Gonna----- catch breath---- and--- slap you..."
     
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    Boots, saw pants, m-pact gloves, safety glasses and protos helmet with shield and ear muffs. That's what I wear and so do those that work for me.
     
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    Steel-toed boots, chaps (mostly for the added padding for the knees), m-pact or leather gloves. Only wear a helmet when in thick brush.

    Have never worn hearing protection. My hearing is so bad, the doctor was relieved when he found out that I wasn't an air traffic controller or police officer.
     
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    Really expensive pants, steel and kevlar boots, Husqvarna helmet system with chipper earmuffs. Whistle, phone, and a "Celox®️" anti-hemmorragic bandage.

    Plastic hard hats are engineered to absorb impact by flexing. A hard hat with a brim should absorb the impact of a kicked-back bar (with the chain stopped) before it smashes the face and forehead. Like a crumple zone in a car.

    Mesh visor is essential. While it doesn't stop fine dust, it saves the eyes from branches and chips. A stick in the eye can wipe out several days profit, or worse.
     
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    Tin cap, ear plugs loose falling, deep for limbing/bucking, prescription glasses, screws on the soles of my boots and I wear madson insert jeans. I don't think I will ever cut my legs but my inserts save me from all the other crashes and bashes in the woods.
     
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    Seriously the toe cut off myth again? I thought that went with being thrown out of a car in a accident was better than being belted in and hot butter was good for burns.

    Tree works dangerous enough, why not look after your guys and get them the right gear? Accidents happen and gear can be all the difference

    Helmet, hi vis shirts, chainsaw trousers or chaps, capped boots, safety glasses. And I like my 3120xp's, I dont play tennis
     
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  11. Capitalist

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    Myth that is fact.
    How much weight has to land on your toes wrapped in leather, from a blunt object, to cut it off?

    Now how muc weight does it take to compress a steel to into your foot (which is sharp) and remove your toes? About 5k lbs.

    Well, thats about the weight of my loaded tires. Wheras the odds off you getting hit with a piece of wood big enough to amputate or crush toes to the point of no return are much slimmer.

    ;)
     
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    Total Bullsh*t.

    If enough force (weight) is applied to crush the steel toe of a boot, your toes in a standard leather boot would be jelly.

    THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF STEEL TOED BOOTS!

    (Stay away from the edges of our flat earth).

    Philbert
     
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    Oh: I see we are back to Page 1 myths.

    Here is an experiment/ demonstration A.S. members can try or consider if they are bored:

    Take a package of (non-frozen) hot dogs. Place several in an old, steel toed boot, and several in an old plain, leather work boots (hit Goodwill or a garage sale). Drive over both with your '5k lbs' tires, and get back to us with some photos*.

    *Hint: put the hot dogs in a zip-lock bag if you like the plain leather boots and want to keep them.

    Philbert
     
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    Depends and no.
    Might or might not sever the primary nerves which are very flexible.

    So according to you I can cut your finger off witha machete or a hammer, with the same amount of force.

    ;)
     
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    Once the open side is turned down your toes have a few hundred lb force threshold of being severed.

    My grandfather had a semi run ove his foot fully loaded. It messed his foot up bad. Totally crshed it and he made a full recovery.

    Now if he had worn steel toes, by the time he got to that piss ass hospital in bfe, they would not have been able to be reattached.
     
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    My opinion on steel toed shoes...If that toe gets hit with enough force to crush it your toes would be toast without them. Now drop a 50lbs round on your standard workboot toe verses a safety toe. Most likely not going lose any toes but the guy with safety toes will be back to work sooner. The guy without safety toes will be out for a while with a few broke toes.
     
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    It's clear that you enjoy being argumentative and provocative, but that does not make you any more correct than repeating a falsehood in an echo chamber, so I will likely drop off after this post.

    You seem obsessed with one edge of a metal, cup-shaped protective device. If that scares you so much, consider the plastic / composite versions. Or metatarsal guards.
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    Your grandfather's anecdote, and the opinion of a mis-informed, former employer don't stack up well to researched engineering standards in dozens of countries, and hundreds of millions (billions?) of protected feet in workplaces.

    Philbert
     
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    The first word in PPE is personal, it’s a matter of preference. I’ve only recently started wearing ear protection to save what hearing I have, always worn glasses, gloves most of the time. Hard hat when falling, good work boots with ankle support are also recommended. I will not criticize anyone’s preferences, but if I see someone being down right unsafe around me, and I’m in charge, I’ll let them know , and either ask them to stop or leave the job. To me, the most unsafe practice is to keep going when you are exhausted, that’s when most accidents happen! If you feel this happening or have a close call, either stop and catch some rest or quit an come back when rested. :cool:
     
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  19. Blue Oaks

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    Uhhh, the "Personal" in PPE refers to protective equipment for the person, as opposed to say environmental equipment, not as if it were optional based on personal beliefs.
     
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    Not about beliefs, but about preference.
     

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