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Seeking advice regarding thinning chainsaw

Discussion in 'Forestry and Logging Forum' started by Clark10, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. madhatte

    madhatte It's The Water Staff Member

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    perhaps in the morn? though it might be in green paint pen...
     
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    There ya go may the farce be with you
     
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    There it freakin' is!
     
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    newforest ArboristSite Member

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    Sometimes the word "Thinning" means 'pre-commercial' size. I fall trees all day long but rarely much above 10" dbh, though sometimes. I also do this in the mountains at times, or at other times in heavy slash on post-harvest sites, which can be a rather athletic task to walk on all day. So Power:Weight ratio is important to me and I use a 50cc saw for "Thinning" (550XP currently). I keep a 60cc saw as a back-up and for when one of my friends inevitably needs a bigger piece of wood cut, and sometimes when I can stay near the truck I will run the 60cc (562XP currently) for a tank or two, though a 60cc class saw looks a little stilly with a 16" bar on it. But I don't want to tote around any more weight than necessary. The last few days has been in one of the more annoying snow conditions - 1" of fresh clean powder and temps in the low 20s at best since it fell, making the ground feel like it is covered in graphite dust. Not fun on a slope.
     
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    I lugged around the 2150 all day today, brushing trail. Man that's more work than felling with the 2171.
    Cut up one tree with the 2159, which then makes the 2150 feel lighter for about 5 minutes.
     
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    *UPDATE*

    It's just shy of a year since I started this adventure with the 562 XP. I thought I would check in and give an update as I always appreciate this on threads that I read like this.

    I have to say that I'm still very pleased with the saw. I have been putting in about 25 hours a month. I took the advice of a longer bar and I bought a Tsumura 28" bar for it and run full skip chain.
    Observations:
    • Tsumura bar set up is great! The longer bar has saved my back and is safer to use in my estimation. I picked up the 55 with a 20" bar the other day (back up saw) and was reminded how much I have to bend over with the shorter bar. I also find myself getting closer to my body with the bar tip as it swings in closer than the 28" bar. Saw has no trouble pulling through the 12-18" average D.F. logs I work with. I have thought about a longer bar but have decided to stay in the manufacturer recommendations on bar length for now. I like the bar so much that I got another one! Thanks to member "thechainsawguy" for the great service. Easy to work with and quick turn around given the border crossing from B.C. to Oregon, USA.
    • Autotune has been nice. It seems to do well for the conditions and also appears to adjust for changes in air filter during work. Wife says I smell less like fuel mix at the end of the day too.
    • I have had issues with bolts coming loose or shearing on the saw. The saw has great anti-vibe but I've had one shear on the pull cord cover and had to drill and remove to replace, and another with the same issue on the muffler. I had two muffler bolts work out and needed to replace them.
    • Just yesterday was my first real repair of the saw as the sprocket came apart. Still has an inner circle but the outside of the circle came apart on about 1/3 of circumference.
    • No hot start issue as was noted by other folks mentioned with first generation. I go light on startup procedure (don't pump the primer bulb, etc.) when over 85 degrees and all goes well.
    Over all I would say this is a great saw and bar combo and I'm happy. With it in the shop this week I find myself looking for another backup saw and find myself thinking another 562XP would be just what I need. :)
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    Have to agree with 7S's first paragraph & any of the saws quoted in the second will get the job done Sharp chain is the item that will make your job satisfying & not a chore
     
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    Could I ask why you are running a skip chain? if you're mainly soft wood cutting I would have thought a full chisel would have performed better
     
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    So reasons 1 and 2 why I don't run Husqvarna, #3 being the handle angle and control layout is goofy to me.


    Some folks don't have access to square grinders or files. Most shops out here only grind round and blink a lot and glance side to side when you ask for square grind stuff.
     
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    Same Here.
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    When I first was employed on servicing saws for the logging company I work for they used Stihl saws we had backing out /coming loose & sheared fastenings The boss man got a better deal with using Husky we have backing out/ coming loose & shearing fasteners my take is you pays your money & takes your pick Bit like the Ford/GM feud The saw Iv'e used for the longest period of time without fasteners committing suicide is an Alpina Prof 070S.
     
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    The cutter spacing has nothing to do with the cutter shape. . running a small power head and a 28 " bar. Full skip makes good sense.

    I think having duplicate powerheads and bars is the perfect idea !!
     
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    northmanlogging The gyppo's gyppo

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    My gods yer stilll alive!
     
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    Yup. Gotta git going and dig out my climbing gear. We got -12°F wind chill and of all days I have to do a tree job today.
    First time climbing in over a year.
     
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    Ick... Stay safe, and welcome back
     
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    Thanks. Got it down fine and dandy. Been a couple years since I was in the spurs. Funny how the body remembers how to do its thing. Without a lot of input from the brain. Kinda maxed out my right knee a couple times. One of the coldest climbing jobs I've done. Wind chill was between 15 and 20 below F . old white spruce that grew out in the open are a real so and so to limb when climbing them. Kinda like a red cedar only the limbs stick together like Velcro.

    Sorry for the derail OP.
     
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