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so why exactly are ms200t's so expensive?

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by grandnational, Dec 21, 2010.

  1. oscar4883

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    Why muffler modify a saw? Doesn't come from the factory that way. I am not a fan a Brads any more than I am a fan of members in general here, but, I can imagine that the man has several hours in porting a saw. What is a skilled trade worth? I would say that even $75hr. is not outrageous. My own opinion on a ported 200t is that I would not want one. They see very hard use and it would seem to me to put a ton of stress on such a small saw that already is close to peak performance. That being said, on a larger saw I don't see a problem at all. IMO a heavier platform can definately withstand the modifications. The fact that ported saws can be used for work has been proven by many guys out west, and down under lol, who run them to make a living. And logging, to me, is the environment where a saw would get worked the most. Not like tree work where several saws are going to be used over the course of a job. Now a modded 200 may be great for certain pruning applications, I wouldn't know for sure about that, but in small bursts it may be the ticket for the people who do that work. Now for general tree work, better time gains are going to come from improving your general work techniques. Sorry for the slightly rambling post.
    Later John
     
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    Merry Porting Christmas to all and to all a Sharp chain night.


    even you Husky lovers....
     
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    Zero Gravity ArboristSite Operative

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    I would not buy a ported saw, let alone pay someone to experiment on it. The only results they get is noise!

    ZG
     
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    not to mention that the manufacturer has to abide by epa regulations in order to sell their saw and it there in is the epa regs that kill most saws... most modding is done to remove the regulated crap that they put on the saw. IE .. the newer huskys are epa regulated to 50 hours of work before there "out of spec" by the epa standards. all the epa has done is restricted airflow (less power) restricted the muffler (big power loss and head build up) and put regs on pistons (lower power) im sure I have missed a few things. All this just to pass emissions and, it also adds more cost and costly repairs to the saw. Not to mention that it gives "the man" a little bit more control over us.
     
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    Yoopermike ArboristSite Guru

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    merry x mas ang! .. ya must be a stihlhead!
     
  6. angelo c

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    Yea I am...

    but I love my 395, 385 and that junk of a saw the 372...oh and when Spike gets me a 560 Im buyin one of those POS's too. Husky sux !!!! :hmm3grin2orange:

    I just prefer to work on Stihls, I like running all kinds. So I guess that makes me a Stihlhead !!!
     
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    nothing wrong with running all diff brands.. what works for you is what works for you :D toss in a dolmar er 2 in the mix and your stylin'
     
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    LOL, I can't believe the amount of crap that spews out of some people! LOL
     
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    Nuttin like 14 pages of "Fiber" to loosen up some people....
     
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    You are an absolute joke. I have never said that a ported saw runs cooler. Quite the opposite is true. And a "little more power"? Wow, have you got a lot to learn. You're dissing something you've obviously never even experienced. In the spirit of Christmas, you are a real Scrooge, lol.
     
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    Hi there I'm looking to buy a new saw to cut firewood what saw would you guys suggest?
     
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    a ported 200T:hmm3grin2orange:
     
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    :laugh: :cheers:
     
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    This train wreck of a thread is begging for derailment.....:D







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    MCW Somebody's talking crap here & it ain't the tree!

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    I can't help but think you've been reading car modification magazines or motorbikes etc, not realising that a chainsaw's muffler is attached directly to the exhaust port so your theory is null and void. How much temperature loss would you expect over an inch, maybe two at the most? I never said porting a saw makes it run cooler, I said muffler modding one will, and surprise surprise if you do a bit of homework you'll realise I'm right. In fact common sense will tell you that there is less heat buildup in a modified muffler than a stock one, ESPECIALLY when that saw is being worked hard. Remember we're not talking no load heat either.
    Eggnog, Apple Brandy, and blow up doll - don't worry mate, we've all been there ;)
     
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    Yeah, me an Manual used to whoop yer axe pretty good, ya hornschwaggling donut hole. I miss that sum#####, Manual. Stuck up for the little guy every time, he did. Except for Stihl...that was one little guy he had no luv fer.
     
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    That is cause he kicked lol:cheers:
     
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    My 009 beat a 200T at a recent GTG.

    I'm just sayin.

    200T is the best climbing saw, though.
     
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    Aw John,yew keep drumming your chest with that big bore sleeper 009.........:hmm3grin2orange:
     

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