I picked up a new MS461 two days ago and all I can say is, wow!! She's a powerhouse. I ended up coming across one online listed for 979.00. It was an error. But, the company honored the price, so I couldn't pass it up. I cut a few loads of wood today and I'm impressed. I'll be cutting a bunch more Thursday. I do need to get a 20" bar/chain for it though. The 30" isn't something I need on a regular basis. Its what came with it though.