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The verdict is in concerning my powwermatch bar!

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by mrpotatohead, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. HarleyT

    HarleyT Addicted to ArboristSite

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    I want to see the damage.
     
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    lightj12 ArboristSite Operative

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    I was cutting a bunch partially rotted oak and it caused excessive wear on a stihl bar that I was using. The punky wood starved the oil feed and the chain was pretty much galling on the bar. I kept cleaning out the bar throughout the day but the wear still occurred; abrasive cutting conditions.
     
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    While the line best chain ever makes myself "and most here" think the story is the exact opposite, like the chain was dull, and ran loose. With that said the bar in you're video doesn't look that bad, and the Oregon bars I've used sure do in fact seem to have soft rails. Also bar mount, sprocket comes into play. Take the new bar, set your chain up correctly, dress the rails and flip the bar regularly, keep the bar out of the DIRT and you won't have any issues.
     
  4. mrpotatohead

    mrpotatohead ArboristSite Member

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    I will post pics when I get it back. And those who question or doubt my intellect can politely leave my thread. I have stated nothing but facts about what has occurred and statements between me and Glenn at Blount products. It does not take an above average IQ to simply tell the truth concerning an instance or product. If you are doubting me, call Glenn yourself at Blount Products, you can reach him at 503-653-4529.

    I posted this as a shared experience with a product. I did not call Oregon junk, or any other name, but rather expressed my dissastisfaction with their product and stated that I would not be using them in the future due to that dissatisfaction. I did not call people names or insult anybody here in any way who chooses to use Oregon products, and welcome anybody's experience to be shared that is pertinent to the situation or who may have questions or comments. But yet it seems there are those who feel Oregon should not be questioned or doubted, and doing so is wrong in some sort of manner.
     
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    I don't think they were questioning your intellect, I think there was some back and forth concerning another members avatar...Which I should politely say to him, "I am glad to meet you thus alone" I have had some fast wear on a couple of oregon bars also, but in my case its due to poor oiling caused by sawdust packing in the rails is some very very dry pine, by the time I realised what I was doing I had wore a couple of thousands off of the bar in a couple of spots. Cheers!
     
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  6. mrpotatohead

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    This I have had issues with too. Probably any where from a third to half of the stuff I cut has rot somewhere in it, hence the reason people want to often get rid of a tree. Sometimes you can pull the chain up out of the bar as close as you can to the oil port, and take a can of WD40 or something like that with a straw and clean some of that stuff out if it is not that bad. Don't know if that would have helped your situation, it sounds pretty bad...
     
  7. mrpotatohead

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    You will friend, you will, patience please! Just give the dog another bone while he waits...

    I am in the dark here, but are people insinuating I was questioning rd35's intellect? Cause I was doing the exact opposite. And actually giving some praise to his avatar... ...or at least what I intended to be so.
     
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    farmer steve outstanding in my field, 5150

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    i went back and reread you post and that's what i thought. i just watching from the sidelines here.
     
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    I understood the reference , maybe I got mixed up but earlier, one of the posts it seemed as if someone else misunderstood the comments. as I said I should say to RD35, "I am glad to meet you thus alone" he will understand exactly what I meant ;)
     
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    rd35 Just an average Joe's brother!!

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    Yes....1st base meeting and discussion!

    Hey everbody I do not see anybody attacking me in any way. Nice friendly discussion here about a product that appears to not perform properly. Lots of ideas and discussion helps us all to become better saw mechanics and operators! I'm good.
    Oh, and Mr. P if you don't want that bar I'll gladly pay shipping if you want to send it to me. I'd love to play with it to see if it is softer than my other bars. For starters I would carefully smack another Oregon bar rail to rail perperdicular and see which bar makes a larger dent in the other. This will tell me which is harder.
     
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    I cut mostly dead Oak & the stuff with rotten sections or insects is real hard on bars & chains. Lot of grit gets carried in from ants and stuff. Screws with the oiling & creates a lot of wear.
     
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    And what do you mean by that????!!!!

    What are you trying to say???

    Does my avatar reflect something too????

    I, sir, am offended!!!!
     
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    Nice one!
     
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    It is not a bone, but a Dunhill.......

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    I sent a p.m. to Oregon Engineer and Powersharp Eng with a link to this thread. See if they have any input.

    I don't know if they still drop by here anymore.
     
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    At the speed a chain moves, a lot of damage can be done very quickly.
    From time to time it happens, its really difficult to get such inidents in
    time, dust, grit, ants, basically grinding paste, and oil blocker.

    I understand the upset of the OP, but I would have taken a new bar,
    and had a go at replicating the problem, then I could make a more concrete
    decision regarding ditching the brand.

    I used to work in manufacturing, you can send in good components
    and if you take your eye off the ball for a few minutes, someone can change something
    simple, a setting, a method of doing something, spend less time doing something that is
    perhaps heat related, like hardening, and disaster strikes, Oregon are no different,
    and the OP could have indeed got a dodgy bar, can Oregon or anyone else test each single
    piece of steel they are supplied with, no, it is difficult to retain consistency, but not impossible,
    its what a company does when it finds a problem that I have the problem with, would you
    throw out a days work on a factory floor, I would, but I don't have share holders, and safety
    comes first in my book, a little off topic, but just saying there are a lot of variables involved
    for Oregon, and for the OP regarding what caused his bar to wear so quickly.

    Either way, whats done is done, no one got hurt, and we live to cut another one of God's
    gifts to us all.
     
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    Never chase good money after bad Pr:Dfess:Dr.
     
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    I took that as a choice above? The doubters would leave in respect opon your request or call Glenn and come back.
    The likes of myself would hold exemption under "the newbee clause" as we had yet to come to the thread.
    It's really a beautiful language.

    Something wasn't sitting right with me here. I've ran mostly Oregon bars and chains for the better part of 29 yrs.
    Well I took the opportunity and had a rather lengthy conversation this afternoon with Glen on this matter. Bottom line here brother is he seems to want to throw you under the bus. I'm at a lose with it all. I've been in 'your position'. On the other side of things...I thing you just got your chain yanked!..lol Sorry man.

    We wouldn't doubt your intellect Mr Potatohead.

    Human error will happen at times as it's been noted. Don't pay attention to their words as a rule, pay attention to their actions. I don't have a problem with your ability to tell your story correctly. Your demo was A+. Now their actions were to give you a new bar. A couple of points here.
    1) If It wore down to the point you had to dress it in 40 min them why would you run it. It stands to reason it will do it again, so that bar is not an option.
    2) The fairest we can all be here is to give you the benefit of any wrongdoing. This says your knowledge, tools & skills are all on.

    (Not everyone will always do that. Most, in your cause will I believe).
    So this only leaves fault in the product in the demo.
    The far majority here are saying
    [ OK you got a bad one it looks like, take the new one..it's a no brain'er].
    Your answer to that, if I'm not mistaken is [why..it's the second time of this nature, I can just grind the rails] ? WoW bud.
    Can you do me a favor friend & don't be silly about it and get the new dam bar. Let's then all get together as adults along with Harley & myself. At this time we can pick up the thread from there.
     
  20. KiwiBro

    KiwiBro Hold my beer and film this...

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    Whilst I'll concede the English language can be a blunt, bludgeoning tool at times, I'm shocked by the comprehension skills some of the posters here have displayed.
    Given the advised assessment from the manufacturer that the bar was up to their normal standards, I can understand and in fact applaud, the OP's principled stand rather than just putting his hand out for a replacement he would flick off anyway. Not everyone is willing to sell their principles down the river for a few dollars, as much as that might surprise others.
    :popcorn2:
     

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