Did the guys have a good week of getting crushed by the chuck and duck? BAAHAA!. Take it easy, I thought they were cool to, and they are, they certainly are.goodness gracious, this thread belongs in the petty forum
Anyway this little bicker between blake and ixt is really not petty, in fact it can be taken as the root of the proposed problem, which is -WHY IS AALLHS US GETTIN BEAT OUT BY DA NEW GUY?!
Listen, I got to be honest. Who needs another tree guy? I don't think the public really does and, are reluctant to spend. They want cheap cause cheap is cool and not to steep but best of all cheap is cheap. Few and far are those who pay with honest appreciation, unless they know it the best price.
But then it seems Mr Blakesmaster has such a lovely and wonderful little oppurtunity- don't it? By the way, sir, I would definatly talk to the guy who learned me before I set up shop in his world, you better believe that! Unless we are talking about a prick.
I guess I grew into my business, which is nothing more than me and some contract labor for my work and some work I do for other companies. Often I bid against others I know, actually everyday, aside from the clients I have allready won. Stay in long enough to win enough clients,and be able to keep them; well there you go.
It is going to be tough with so much new competition, the economy, and the fact that you had better be spectacular; if they can get the lawn boys to hack it they will. You hound the rich like Bartlett? You might get somewhere. Anyone else ain't got the time and sure as hell don't want to spend a dime.
I ran the ads for the year to see what was out there and wanted the equipment. I wanted it in my lot! This was after 17 years of working for every YOUR NAME HERE Tree Service. Only thing they served was the name on the truck. After the year of ads i didn't want to see what was out there, I wanted it to stop calling me.
One thing for sure, no matter how cool you are, you are going to have to to slick and you are going to have to be sneaky. After all, its a MASTERPLAN. Good luck and yeefnhaa.
So, Ixt you got much validity with your vast skill and longevity but you do know the oppositions are allowed. Personally, I am sick of bidding against you. I am sick of looking like another Tree Capitist Pig to the eyes of the next person who gets my number out off the yellow pages. " Sure the guy before me could do it for half but he is in jail right now".
These newer business's with their claims of having a "different approach" must be talking bout sombtin I don't get.The recipe for sucess does vary in this business, as with all, but I could list a few and we would all flinch and bow our heads. If you don't think so, that is probably why I quit.
Before I bought the chipper and trucks I tried to buy out the welder shop down in town. I even offered an apprentice deal, it wasn't for the money, just for the assetts at the time.He had allready made a deal with the head shop next door, cylinder head shop. he worked there alone.
I figured I could always get work, well, cause I can and it would be a good long term investment. My business is just a cash flow stragtegy that sustains a level of income, for me! Legal is good; right? Whatever. Never has there really ever been no lettuce in my check salad under the employ of Joe Schmo Tree Care. Brutal bastards and dangerous to boot some can be.
Who is the nice tree guy around here? Who here has a 100% legit history of fine arboricultural integrity? Who can pay me enough so I can pay my mortgage? Hey, what do you think fits the bill?
What those guys were talking about with the ' Brotherhood' thread in the business forum seems to be a nice idea but what it really comes down to is a viable means to put legit cash on the table.
One thing for sure, I operate with clear conscience for the fact that what I know about my trade I learned by myself for myself and never would I set up dojo in my sensay's village, that is if i had i sensay, sure could use one now. For crying out loud these tree guys have thier signs up everywhere!