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What I need to become licensed

Discussion in 'Business Management' started by SteelBuck44, Oct 30, 2017.

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  1. SteelBuck44

    SteelBuck44 SpurClimber

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    Hey guys, first post here. Been doing tree work (climbing, climbing, removal, pruning, hazard trees and limbs) for a while now, but keep losing jobs because I'm not licensed. So I think I'm ready to take the dive, I just have no idea how to go about it. The legal mumbo jumbo is a little to much for my head. If anyone can help with the proper steps, that would be much appreciated!!
     
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    What licenses do you need / what kinds of jobs are you not getting because you are not licensed?

    This is a local question - may be a State one, but seems probably more local than that. I have never worked in Oregon, but looked it up here and it sounds like you need a landscape contractors license if you are doing installations, but not the things you listed??? Somebody else from Oregon can probably answer that better. Might help to share the municipalities you work in so folks can let you know if they know whether those communities require licensing.

    Or, are you talking about ISA Certification (voluntary) which is entirely different that licensing.
     
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    In oregon, you have to have a contractors license to do, advertise, or bid on tree work. People turn away when they see you're not licensed just for the simple fact you're not licensed. Also insurance is a big thing and I have no idea what insurance I would need or how to go about it. I will have no employees or heavy equipment (chipper, bucket truck etc)
     
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    I’m in Florida but I went through my tax guy. He went over the benefits of being LLC vs INC vs DBA and so on. He also explained workers comp vs workers comp exempt. I think his fees and my state business license with Federal Income TAX ID was roughly $240. Then I had to get a local city ($50) and county license ($22). If nothing else, hopefully this points you in the right direction of who can help you get set up. Of course, you could make some calls and set it up yourself without paying the fees of somebody doing it for you. Me personally, being that it was my first time doing it, I do not regret paying to have it done. Gives me peace of mind, I know it’s done right and I don’t have to worry about anything.

    Insurance? That’s a whole different animal and an expensive one too.

    I hope this was helpful to you. Best of luck.


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    In that link I provided it sure sounds like you do not need a license to do maintenance...not knowing m ore of Oregon law. But I could see the average homeowner not understanding that and expecting you to have that license. It's not that expensive so it will probably make sense for you anyways.

    I think it's insane to even think about doing any business without insurance.

    To really get it up and going if you don't have a strong grasp on the fundamentals you need a good accountant, attorney and insurance agent. I'd recommend finding one of the three that you like to start and then ask them to give you a referral for the other two. They can walk you through it and protect you from many many headaches in the long-term.
     
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    Woodcutteranon Dr Pepper, Chainsaws, Good Times

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    For your insurance...try contacting your insurance company your auto or homeowners is with. They already know you and will be more motivated to put together something cost effective to get you going.

    Regardless...DO NOT get overwhelmed with the forms, laws, licenses, insurance etc. Commit to yourself that you will get this business up and running and you will not become deterred by anything or anyone! You can do this!
     
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    ATH, the link you sent is for landscaping licenses. In oregon, tree work is covered under the CCB. Not the LCB, As much as I wish that were the case.
     
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    OK...my bad. Like I said, I don't know OR law, just did a quick search. I read this in the FAQ section:
    Maintenance involves the care of plants and the general upkeep of an already installed project. Landscape contracting is the preparation for and/or installation of a project or any part of it.

    Here in Ohio we call trees "plants" ;) I'm sure there is another law in Oregon somewhere else that distinguishes trees. Good luck!
     
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    No license is a red flag to customers in that you likely don't have insurance either, and here in warshington you have to have a biz license to get biz insurrance, laws vary state to state...

    contact your local state dept of licensing, and they will tell you where to go from there, also some cities may require a separate biz license to work in their jurisdiction (laws vary)

    Once you have a license, then go get insured, its not terribly expensive until you destroy something... then it gets expensive.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, what do you consider inexpensive for Insurance? I do trees as a side job. 2-4 small jobs a month, maybe. I don’t do anything above what I can reach with a pole saw and 12ft A-frame step ladder. Nothing over houses that I can’t slowly trim and catch as it falls. I do a lot of storm debris clean up. I’m not looking to insure any of my equipment. I was quoted at $1,600 for the year. That’s not cost effective for me. I’m up front with people I do work for. I haven’t lost a job due to no insurance. My state also doesn’t require it. I’m not advocating not having Insurance. As a matter of fact, if it were cheaper I’d have it just for peace of mind.


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    under 2k a year is cheap, especially since it gives you a little piece of mind working around high value targets, think my liability ins is like 1200 a year for logging, and I added another 7-800 a year to cover my machines getting destroyed/stolen, etc

    But if you're just messing around trimming easy stuff, your not risking enough to need insurance, though you should youtube tree work and ladders...

    IF you plan on working near structures therefore increasing risk, you should consider upping your bids enough to pay for said insurance. Gives you an idea as to why the tree service guys don't even bat an eye at charging $1000 plus to remove one tree.
     
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    I agree and that’s why I do it the way I do. I won’t do anything out of my comfort zone and I’m not scared to turn down jobs.

    YouTube is awesome. Nothing wrong with learning from people’s successes and mistakes.

    Stay safe.


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