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arborjunky
Hate to resurrect threads but this has so much of my concerns that I'm hoping to just continue it:
Another poster referred to the (sometimes *substantial*) fores that a groundie can put on the tree's ancnhoring-point if they don't know what they're doing, but then I read your post which confirmed my original understanding... Is it fair to say that, if you're speedlining in a manner where the branches are being brought to crashes on the ground, then there'd be no worries for the climber Re noobie-groundies, right? IE, the danger that groundies can impose here is by snubbing or sharply-decelerating the load on its way down, right?
Thanks a ton for any insight on that, however there's 1 more thing I'm trying to get a better handle on.... I have a project that I *was* going to setup a controlled-speedline for, but now after watching (the amazing!!) 'pfannerman' (lawrentz schultz), and seeing how much 'drift rigging' he does (IE setting two high-anchors so that as the log is cut it swings-into the center of the two high-anchors' middle-point), it seems like you coudl control more weight more precisely this way **except** it comes at a loss of precision on drop-zone (though not much, if setup right!) which has me thinking to try drift-lining the piece instead of controlled-speedline - would love anything you couuld tell me on this!! (FWIW, this stuff in-question isn't stuff that even needs rigging at all, it's backyard practice, goal is to get proficient enough to market myself as a contract climber and start recouping $$ so I can continue buying gear & having fun climbing&rigging -- still can't believe this is something to get paid for
) ((Bonus Q: What about using DBR/mech-advantage rig setups while in the drift-line context? IE my closest rope doesn't just connect to the log, I've taken a bight out from my anchor and run it through a Safebloc on the log to be cut, then tie-off the drift-line....it seems that the Safebloc would control some initial-forces before the drift-line was fully engaged meaning any given weight would stress things far less! Any thoughts on that'd be greatly appreciated!!))
(2nd PS- what's the minimum 'light-duty' cordage you guys would use for speedlines, is 1/2" / 10k ABS acceptable? How critical does elasticity factor-into this? Have been reading high-line/tight-rope forums for better-understadning speedline-strengths but still having trouble, can see them being stronger or weaker than simple end-to-end cordage strength!)
Another poster referred to the (sometimes *substantial*) fores that a groundie can put on the tree's ancnhoring-point if they don't know what they're doing, but then I read your post which confirmed my original understanding... Is it fair to say that, if you're speedlining in a manner where the branches are being brought to crashes on the ground, then there'd be no worries for the climber Re noobie-groundies, right? IE, the danger that groundies can impose here is by snubbing or sharply-decelerating the load on its way down, right?
Thanks a ton for any insight on that, however there's 1 more thing I'm trying to get a better handle on.... I have a project that I *was* going to setup a controlled-speedline for, but now after watching (the amazing!!) 'pfannerman' (lawrentz schultz), and seeing how much 'drift rigging' he does (IE setting two high-anchors so that as the log is cut it swings-into the center of the two high-anchors' middle-point), it seems like you coudl control more weight more precisely this way **except** it comes at a loss of precision on drop-zone (though not much, if setup right!) which has me thinking to try drift-lining the piece instead of controlled-speedline - would love anything you couuld tell me on this!! (FWIW, this stuff in-question isn't stuff that even needs rigging at all, it's backyard practice, goal is to get proficient enough to market myself as a contract climber and start recouping $$ so I can continue buying gear & having fun climbing&rigging -- still can't believe this is something to get paid for
) ((Bonus Q: What about using DBR/mech-advantage rig setups while in the drift-line context? IE my closest rope doesn't just connect to the log, I've taken a bight out from my anchor and run it through a Safebloc on the log to be cut, then tie-off the drift-line....it seems that the Safebloc would control some initial-forces before the drift-line was fully engaged meaning any given weight would stress things far less! Any thoughts on that'd be greatly appreciated!!))(2nd PS- what's the minimum 'light-duty' cordage you guys would use for speedlines, is 1/2" / 10k ABS acceptable? How critical does elasticity factor-into this? Have been reading high-line/tight-rope forums for better-understadning speedline-strengths but still having trouble, can see them being stronger or weaker than simple end-to-end cordage strength!)
