Echo CS-590 timberwolf vs. Echo CS-600P

[Philbert]

Good point. Every body mail one of each chainsaw to me and I will test them in a uniform manner. Of course, I will have to keep all of the saws to calibrate future tests!

Manufacturer supplied date is always subject to inflation unless there is some uniform standard (ANSI, ISO, etc.), and some trust that they follow these. Some industries have third party verification. Even then, some car manufacturers will boast about a MPG rating that is only achieved by a stripped down model that is almost never available.

The displacement, HP, torque, and chain speed ratings, when supplied, can be starting points for comparing saws. Some of the interesting things about this site are the hands-on experiences of other users, and the guidance provided on how much some of these saws can or cannot be improved with simple mods.

Philbert

 

[mountainlake]

The real test is in the wood. Steve

 

[john damps]

to jd hacker the caterpillar d6 was a high track lgp 2010 k series, i run them and old cats alot [its hard to beat the 1979-1984 cat d6] for YOUR ONFO the john deere was a 2010 700 lgp and they were both on the same job pushing up 8000 yards of top soil for a farmer in fultonville ny, i wouldnt compair apples to pizza i know what im talking about, the john deere out pushed it by more than a little,imnot brand loyal so i think my experience and opinons are not swaying me to say somthing becuse i favor ford over chevy or cat over deere,i have not ran a wacker neuson excavator but from what i have been told they are the cats ass, i was thinking about buying a new case [and im not a huge case fan] ex 55b excavator,they weigh 12,200[and change] but are only 39 horse power,however the dealer was giving me a great deal and letting use it for 2 weeks on a upcomming job,another local salsmen is trying to get me in a wacker 5003 [i think thats the model] and when i looked at the specs it has 58 horse power so i better give it a try, my john deere 650j lgp has 90 horse but dosnt put the power to the ground im goin to trade for a komatsu ex 39. the 650 spins to fast, well so much that,

 

[jughead500]

 

[jdhacker]

Oh im a case fan as far as backhoe, I have a 580 D and a old ford F700 I work on the side. Im not brand loyal, but I can still get every part for my old case. Thats a must. And means something to me.

 

[john damps]

any owners of the husky new 562? how big of a bar would you feel is a good size, i have a lot clearing job to look at .the land owner said they, 60 to 80 foot high and at least 30-36 inches, i have an older 272 with 24inch, and stihl 044mag but i hear that new huquavarna 562 is a real power house, i have 10 saws now but i have a chainsaw buying bug, it happens every year, i just bought the new 590 ECHO and its AWSOOOOM, but still may buy another my problem is my shoulders are shoot i dont want a big heavy saw,and realy dont need another but what the hell its just money,i need reports from you guys that know what your talking about,you guys know , is this husky the best in the 65cc class or is there somthing better and faster,ill check for your replies just remember weight is very important to me, thanks guys. ill be waiting,

 

[7sleeper]

any owners of the husky new 562? how big of a bar would you feel is a good size, i have a lot clearing job to look at .the land owner said they, 60 to 80 foot high and at least 30-36 inches, i have an older 272 with 24inch, and stihl 044mag but i hear that new huquavarna 562 is a real power house, i have 10 saws now but i have a chainsaw buying bug, it happens every year, i just bought the new 590 ECHO and its AWSOOOOM, but still may buy another my problem is my shoulders are shoot i dont want a big heavy saw,and realy dont need another but what the hell its just money,i need reports from you guys that know what your talking about,you guys know , is this husky the best in the 65cc class or is there somthing better and faster,ill check for your replies just remember weight is very important to me, thanks guys. ill be waiting,

Husqvarna 562 is only 59.8ccm!

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[john damps]

used the 590 today 22inch -18 inch hard willow that all the bark was off the wood was as white a paper and as hard to split as grannite rock, that echo 590 cut 4 loads [4 face cord in 15 min, maybe than i hit a dam stone, will cut more tommorow, this thing has no vibration, and cuts like s lazer, cuts faster than my 029 super-0390super-husky 61 and 268 and i would almost saw faster than mu o44mag but that has a big bar not apples to appels,no fatige withe the echo just very smooth, i kinda favored stihl over 30 years but the sane class saw wont touch the echo 590 in many differnt waysm not to menchen warrenty is good till 2019 and life time on egnition, i love this saw, also have a new husky 450xtorq,[bought in a pinch ]when my old 61 went down than my 029 super blew a barring,they are older saws so i expect some problems even though i take great care of all of them,

 

[john damps]

well i ran the 590 echo all week i probley cut 12 cord, i ran the old husky 61 -the stihl 029 super,and when i switch to the echo its like running a corvette, sooo smoooooth so much power,nice power band,no vibration i dont know how they do it.its kind of like my 250 sho yammaha on my 21ft fx skeeter,the husky is like the high performance mercury-very snotty the stihl is in bettween the echo is so smoth endless power wonderfull power band and no vibration,veruuummmm husky is snotty-riiiingriiiing-riiiiing,you have to run the echo to see why i compared in this [funny] fashion,some people will understand, sorry for those that dont, my fault,just trying to lay it on the plate,also the echo starts on 2nd pull and its been below o all week in the am,

 

[john damps]

WELL i just thought i would touch base with you all, i picked up a new 20in husky 455e rancher,now i have a new 450e, new 509 echo,[witch you all know i love] i stoped at a husky dealer and traded 2 of my 4 echo cs 400[ they were mint,maybe 3-4 tanks of gas ran trew them] i sill have 1 in box and one full of fuel and oil but never used, i ran the 455 husky my opinion[for whats it worth], saw light good ballance more power than the 450e. but not a real lot although i only cut 14inch to 18 inch hard maple and locust,stars good not as good as the echo,i will buy another echo 590,cant beat them for 400 bucks,than need to decide echo 680 with 24 inch or husky new 562 with 20 or 24inch[if can be had in24m doese any one know,] the echo 680 24inch is 629 bucks from my dealer, the husky dealer gave me 200 each for my cs 400,i wasnt crazy about that but i dont need 4 of them i paid 60 dollors,i know i could have sold them for more just didnt want to deal with it,how do you guys like the 455e with 20 inch?now im dowm to 2 stihls 029super,[just rebuilt] and older 044, i thikn i will stick with echo and husky,even thought i was stihl loyal,just not crazey about the new ones, im not sure why,husky just seem balanced better and echo are so smooth and 5 year warrenty and price very competitive, any thoughts between 680 echo and and 562 huskys? thanks.oh i do have my 1989 husky 61,that cuts good,no chain break so a little dangerest,and im cutting tornado blow down in my 130 acer wood lot, about 20 acers are a mess skidding with my john deere 700lgp

 

[jdhacker]

If your cutting 14 to 18 in stuff all you need is a pro 50cc saw.

 

[john damps]

it so happenend i cut 14 to 18 inch yesterday, some of my clearing jobs and wood on my wood lot are 30inch, i only had 2 orders yesrerday they both wanted sm aller wood, i also for got i still have a 1989 268 and 272 husky but dont use them much,both of them had broken gas tanks ,when i picked them up from the dealer they busted my ass becuse i wore stihl hat, that day i purchesed husky, 61-262-272, i still own all 3 but just use the 61 from time to time, that just got honed out and rebuilt by chairlie stahl,[little falls ny area] 14-18 inch isnt the norm for me ussaly 18-28 inch,,

 

[jdhacker]

You need to sale me that 044 its not near as smooth as your echo.

 

[Miles86]

Anyone have any experience trying to make a cs-600 into a cs-620?

I looked over the IPL and it looks like the crankshafts are different PN's, so is that due to a change in the flywheel keyway? Or maybe the rod small end is updated?
Main bearings are the same PN's. This one update make the idea seem unworkable for us shade tree mechanics without a machine shop.

Anyone tried repairing a scored piston cylinder from a 600 with a 620 top end only? I am thinking there are too many updates on the 620 to do something like that.

Doesn't look feasible money wise. Thanks for any comments.

 

[john damps]

the 044 is about 22-24 years old, its in remarkable shape, i still use it when clear cutting for a house foundation,somtimes there are huge pine and hemlock,so still have need for it ,just dont use it as much, my shoulders are bad, both need operations i just dont have the time or dont want to do it,

 

[nmurph]

I would take a 262, 268, 272, or 044 over the 590 anyday. Any of them will soundly trounce the 590 (an no, I've never run a 590). If they don't, they need attention. The only thing the 590 might have over all of them is smoothness.

 

[john damps]

i never said the 590 had more power than the 262-268-272 i just wanted a new mid size saw, read the messagem my 029 super was down my husky 61 was being rebuilt, if you NEVER RAN A 590 ECHO AND I HAVE, I DONT THINK YOUR AN EXPERT ON SOMTHING YOU NEVER TRIED, I NEVER RAN A KOMATSU 61 BUT I KNOW ITS GOT MORE POWER THAN MY D3 OR 450 JOHN DEERE, OR MAYBE MY 700LGP,IF I NEVER RAN ONE IM NOY GOING TO PUT IT DOWN, i bought 4 saws in last month,trying to keep up with time, my big saws were bought in 1989-1991, yes the 272 will out cut the 590 echo,i want comparing them,run one than youll see how they are,

 

[nmurph]

i never said the 590 had more power than the 262-268-272 i just wanted a new mid size saw, read the messagem my 029 super was down my husky 61 was being rebuilt, if you NEVER RAN A 590 ECHO AND I HAVE, I DONT THINK YOUR AN EXPERT ON SOMTHING YOU NEVER TRIED, I NEVER RAN A KOMATSU 61 BUT I KNOW ITS GOT MORE POWER THAN MY D3 OR 450 JOHN DEERE, OR MAYBE MY 700LGP,IF I NEVER RAN ONE IM NOY GOING TO PUT IT DOWN, i bought 4 saws in last month,trying to keep up with time, my big saws were bought in 1989-1991, yes the 272 will out cut the 590 echo,i want comparing them,run one than youll see how they are,

I'm sure you didn't- your account must have been hijacked.

BTW, I've never hit against a major league pitcher, but I'm pretty sure I would get smoked even though I was a pretty good ball player in my years.

...this saw cuts sooooo fast,i had to cut 2 face cords i had to guys carrying wood to splitting area,they had to stop me in ten min, i had well over 3 face cord cut, iy just fell thought the logs,20inch cherry, 18-20 inch black walnut,little ash 22inch, and had no fatige at all and only ran 3quarter throttle, cuts faster than my 029super,cuts faster than huski 61,and my old 268 isnt even close, not sure about my 044mag,that has 28 inch bar,[not fare to compare] but sure seems like echo is faster,this saw is unbeliveable,if your in the market for 55-60cc buy the echo 590 pluse you get a 5 year warrenty,buy from good dealer with service dept,not a big box store, i have 3 orders today will be cutting today,ill keep in touch

used the 590 today 22inch -18 inch hard willow that all the bark was off the wood was as white a paper and as hard to split as grannite rock, that echo 590 cut 4 loads [4 face cord in 15 min, maybe than i hit a dam stone, will cut more tommorow, this thing has no vibration, and cuts like s lazer, cuts faster than my 029 super-0390super-husky 61 and 268 and i would almost saw faster than mu o44mag but that has a big bar not apples to appels,no fatige withe the echo just very smooth, i kinda favored stihl over 30 years but the sane class saw wont touch the echo 590 in many differnt waysm not to menchen warrenty is good till 2019 and life time on egnition, i love this saw, also have a new husky 450xtorq,[bought in a pinch ]when my old 61 went down than my 029 super blew a barring,they are older saws so i expect some problems even though i take great care of all of them,

 

[john damps]

a poet and dont know it, got to go cut wood

 

[jdhacker]

I glad you like your new saw, and I know echo has made good stuff for years. But I think that is about enough from the super duper steel cutting tree slaying, granite eating, chain breaking 590. I would love to run my 044 against a 590 or 600 with a 25 in bar both burred in something hard.