MaddBomber
ArboristSite Operative
Wow. Very exciting, to finally see the new 80-90cc saws! But extremely disappointing. 16.3 pounds? Almost a pound heavier than the 390!!
I'm actually laughing at the emphasis on "maneuverability"; with it's centered rear handle! Hahaha. Umm, my 1957 Mac has a centered rear handle!! That's some real ingenuity! Especially described by the unbiased third party tester.... that's paid!!! "Here's a $1300 chainsaw, and a paycheck." now I'm supposed to believe his opinion? As he walks to the bank with Husqvarna money? Right.
But... Maneuverability!
Ummmm... isn't a big part of maneuvering a saw related toit's weight? You know, those ounces making the 390/395 so much "better" than the 066/660? Perhaps only I remember the husky guys hammering that point and preaching about torque is always secondary to weight. That throttle response and handling are paramount, even over power?... That dissertation happened for decades and I got on board.
I clearly remember how "It's all about OUNCES!!!" Yet, somehow, full pounds mean nothing now?
"Best in class"? What class? The overweight class? Because the 585xp is very much in the 80cc class... The same "class" as an MS500i...but it's a full forty ounces heavier!! That's two and a half pounds!! That's a lot of weight for 5cc and WiFi. I'm literally shaking my head.
Yeah yeah, I remember those 044 timbermen saying that real loggers don't feel weight, they only feel power. Okay then, try humping a 70cc saw into the Adirondacks, walking for three hours, with lunch, water, fuel, oil, chains, axe, handsaw, ifac, and ppe all strapped to your back. Then create a landing, select cut mature hardwoods strategically, to be helicoptered out. Only to walk three hours back out again. In wind driven sleet.
Tell me then, how ounces don't matter, let alone full POUNDS!!
I get that Husqvarna is focusing on the pnw. Catering to those giant majestic trees made of pure cheese. I've been there on a contract for Boeing. Union job....yuk.
I've hit the "post" of a 5' cedar. I've felt the mossy ground shake as monsers fell. Only respect!! But there's a difference when one 20" frozen ash completely ruins two freshly ground chains... not dull, to be quickly scraped sharp again, but actually snaps the cutters completely off.
Husky must be after the left coast, as all dealers I know of on the right coast have closed or totally lost any Husqvarna support. That's across six states. Every crew. Every contractor. Every company from giants like asplundh running thousands of saws a day, to maltby's, running half a dozen. There's no new huskies to be found anymore. And it's not by choice!
It's like Husqvarna has forgotten what made them so great. Light, fast, and durable..... AVAILABLE!!
Stihl and Echo sure have, and are stepping up with availability, quality, dealer support, and a complete redefinition of class.
To me, my JRed 2065 ran no bigger than a 20". Ever. But in the pwn, that same saw would run a 30 or 32 happily. So why, when fallers are running ported 60cc saws with giant bars, would husky make heavier, slower saws?? In the only area they're still targeting??
Sure, I'm biased, because I'm angry. Angry that Husqvarna abandoned the east coast, while pushing out overbuilt and heavy saws, and they're seemingly playing catch-up in a niche they created.
I'm actually laughing at the emphasis on "maneuverability"; with it's centered rear handle! Hahaha. Umm, my 1957 Mac has a centered rear handle!! That's some real ingenuity! Especially described by the unbiased third party tester.... that's paid!!! "Here's a $1300 chainsaw, and a paycheck." now I'm supposed to believe his opinion? As he walks to the bank with Husqvarna money? Right.
But... Maneuverability!
Ummmm... isn't a big part of maneuvering a saw related toit's weight? You know, those ounces making the 390/395 so much "better" than the 066/660? Perhaps only I remember the husky guys hammering that point and preaching about torque is always secondary to weight. That throttle response and handling are paramount, even over power?... That dissertation happened for decades and I got on board.
I clearly remember how "It's all about OUNCES!!!" Yet, somehow, full pounds mean nothing now?
"Best in class"? What class? The overweight class? Because the 585xp is very much in the 80cc class... The same "class" as an MS500i...but it's a full forty ounces heavier!! That's two and a half pounds!! That's a lot of weight for 5cc and WiFi. I'm literally shaking my head.
Yeah yeah, I remember those 044 timbermen saying that real loggers don't feel weight, they only feel power. Okay then, try humping a 70cc saw into the Adirondacks, walking for three hours, with lunch, water, fuel, oil, chains, axe, handsaw, ifac, and ppe all strapped to your back. Then create a landing, select cut mature hardwoods strategically, to be helicoptered out. Only to walk three hours back out again. In wind driven sleet.
Tell me then, how ounces don't matter, let alone full POUNDS!!
I get that Husqvarna is focusing on the pnw. Catering to those giant majestic trees made of pure cheese. I've been there on a contract for Boeing. Union job....yuk.
I've hit the "post" of a 5' cedar. I've felt the mossy ground shake as monsers fell. Only respect!! But there's a difference when one 20" frozen ash completely ruins two freshly ground chains... not dull, to be quickly scraped sharp again, but actually snaps the cutters completely off.
Husky must be after the left coast, as all dealers I know of on the right coast have closed or totally lost any Husqvarna support. That's across six states. Every crew. Every contractor. Every company from giants like asplundh running thousands of saws a day, to maltby's, running half a dozen. There's no new huskies to be found anymore. And it's not by choice!
It's like Husqvarna has forgotten what made them so great. Light, fast, and durable..... AVAILABLE!!
Stihl and Echo sure have, and are stepping up with availability, quality, dealer support, and a complete redefinition of class.
To me, my JRed 2065 ran no bigger than a 20". Ever. But in the pwn, that same saw would run a 30 or 32 happily. So why, when fallers are running ported 60cc saws with giant bars, would husky make heavier, slower saws?? In the only area they're still targeting??
Sure, I'm biased, because I'm angry. Angry that Husqvarna abandoned the east coast, while pushing out overbuilt and heavy saws, and they're seemingly playing catch-up in a niche they created.
