Formerly known as TheBrushSlasherAS Supporting Member
- Nov 11, 2021
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One of the recurring problems of clone saws is when the end user has one fail after a month or six and doesn't have the ability to perform their own repairs they are stuck trying to find someone to fix it because their shops usually won't touch them then have to hunt Facebook or places like here to find someone to fix it. With shipping and all of that stuff plus the potential of someone saying this is my saw now they are better off buying that beat up 660 at the swap or local guy that has one he doesn't need anymore. Of course that can be a challenge depending on where you live, for me finding a 660/661/462 or a even an 034 locally is like finding hens teeth and if I did they're probably hotter than a 2 dollar pistol. Ebay has been good for me finding deals like a new in box redmax g5000 for 200.The Chinese copy of the 880 is what, $550? Buying a used 880 is $1200-1500 around here. Ebay? $1600.
Saw resale prices are very very high. To the extent that Chinese copies don't just undercut them, often they're less than half.
Are Chinese copies as good as a stihl or husq? Doesn't seem like it.
Are the Chinese capable of making a saw that good? Oh absolutely. But why would they? The guys who won't buy it for being Chinese still won't buy it; they can't offer the service/support structure that would be needed to take real commercial user market share from the established brands here. Chinese industry can and do make incredible products... when there's the financial incentive to do so. They figure it's more profitable to make the $60-600 copies they're making now than to try to compete with the quality brands on saws that would sell for 2-3x what their current products do. Are they right? Who knows. But if they decide that making a $1200 881 copy that's just as good as a Stihl is a good idea... we're going to see a saw just as good as a 881 for $1200. Now will that involve them hiring ex Stihl designers/engineers to consult on building the necessary factory/process? Oh yeah it will. That's not a bad thing for customers, in my book.
Not wanting to buy Chinese products b/c of human rights concerns, political concerns, etc... is fine.
Writing off Chinese products b/c they're all garbage is misinformed and nonproductive. Stuff like the images of the poor casting on a Chinese-built saw is productive. Engineering to meet a demand is a big part of the job. If the demand is for a fairly disposable saw that costs <$100 to manufacture... then stuff like that MAY be ideal. Is a new Porsche a better vehicle than a beat up old Camry that barely passes inspection? What if you have $500 to spend and just need to get back and forth a few miles to work? What good is better if you can't buy it?
How many of these people are buying these big clone saws 070 660 880 and actually using them? I see a lot videos of people using them to cut wood a 50-70cc could handle with ease. Some people just buy them to say hay look at what I have.