I used Motul 2T in road race and off road motorcycles until other competitors started complaining about the stink (this was in observed trials where there's a certain amount of sitting around). They were right, it's pretty bad. I switched to Redline Allsport and continued to use that in my OPE. It smells a lot better. The engines I have torn down that have been running it look pretty clean inside. It's JASO FC.
Needing larger size stihl pre mix or different oil suggestions.
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I used Motul 2T in road race and off road motorcycles until other competitors started complaining about the stink (this was in observed trials where there's a certain amount of sitting around). They were right, it's pretty bad. I switched to Redline Allsport and continued to use that in my OPE. It smells a lot better. The engines I have torn down that have been running it look pretty clean inside. It's JASO FC.
Can’t complain about bad smell , guess it’s all about type of fuel and application, it burns ok for me
Redline doesn't make a Certified oil.
HOT SAWS 101 approved he’s on YouTube and has been using it for over 25 years I have using it for several years and have had no issues burns fine for me
Their docs list their Allsport oil as FC.
Of the 30 dealers in a 50 mile radius there is no one that carries any stihl 2 stroke premix in anything other than the small bottles.
They can claim what they want. It's not certified.
How many gallons of mix does one get from 55 gallons of oil? I'd have to think it would last more than a year!
2.6oz @ 50:1= 2707.69 gal
3.2oz @ 40:1= 2200 gal
3.2oz @ 40:1= 2200 gal
slimbo3006
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I switch back and forth between the VP and Echo red Armour. Tractor Supply has the VP oil, and Home Depot has the Red Armour in my area. So just depends where I am at... Both are FD rated and seem to work pretty well in all my equipment. Very little smoke or smell from either. FWIW in the bottle, the VP appears to have slightly better film strength to it...but not by much. They both coat pretty well. I have even run them both through a little outboard motor a time or two just because I was too lazy to mix a few gallons of TCW oil...
bkellyusa
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I use to use Stihl Ultra but after buying a brand new Echo 4910 I ran two tanks through it and sent it out to be ported and the guy who was going the do the work was surprised at how dirty the engine was after taking it apart. He told me to run Red Armor which I'd done ever since. It cleaned up the particles left by the Stihl oil and clean the engine back up to like new condition. Prior to that I had only heard of red Armor but was otherwise familiar with it. However you can look on YouTube and the internet in general and you will see many growing praises for it.
Explain your comment about elevation?
High octane is not advised. High octane has a higher flash point. Meaning that it is harder to ignite. In a high compression racing applications then this is fine. However a chainsaw is not in this application. A lower octane rating means that the mix is easier to ignite, easier starting more power and much less cost.
Especially with chain saws that do not have high compression or load a high octane fuel is not needed. Where higher elevations are concerned a very low octane is needed. Unless an OP is right at sea level where fuel is more easily ignited then using high test fuel is not practical. My point was that the higher the elevation the longer it takes for ignition to be completed in the combustion chamber. Knowing a little bit about Texas it seemed not likely a higher octane would have much benefit with few exceptions. Thanks
With two of us racing year round the oil went quick. However it it did last more than a year. Each bike was consuming on average fifteen gallons a week times two to three. One thing I learned about storing oil is that it needed to be agitated. So I would divide oil up in containers when oil was fresh. Then I would move container around like laying them upside down or sideways because they tend to separate. Thanks
Campbellcontractlogging
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Red armor
RA is SEMI synthetic blend. Newest blend they removed the ester but kept the high price still.
VP 100% synthetic
VP cheaper by a long shot and both FD.
Just so you know. Stihl Ultra FB rated.
Fireman Bill
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I run a mix of 90 octane non meth fuel and 101 octane airplane fuel that has .53 percent lead in it. I’m switching from Stihl ultra mix to Lucas mix. I mix @40-1. All 6 of my saws and weed eaters run great after many years using this gas combo. I’ve got quick access to my the 101 octane Leaded gas by means of my small airport. The trace of lead in the fuel really does reduce wear….The Stihl manual says minimum octane is 89.
Joseph W Santora
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Have you ever tried using MOGAS? That's all I run in my yard machines. Chainsaws get Husky premix @ 40:1.
