Pferd sharpener, did I get a Limon?

[Markup98]

Hey guys, I ordered a pferd sharpener from Amazon. They had two options the original and a new one. I got the original. That flat file and one of the round wiggle side to side and up and down. Probably about 1/32 or a little more. I don't have any sharpening experience so I was wondering if this is acceptable or will it cause a problem.

3/16 cs-x file
Sharpening .325 Simi chisel chain from Bailey's. Sc20

 

[sundance]

I'd send it back and try again. Moving files don't sound like a good plan.

 

[Horrigan72]

Hey guys, I ordered a pferd sharpener from Amazon. They had two options the original and a new one. I got the original. That flat file and one of the round wiggle side to side and up and down. Probably about 1/32 or a little more. I don't have any sharpening experience so I was wondering if this is acceptable or will it cause a problem.

3/16 cs-x file
Sharpening .325 Simi chisel chain from Bailey's. Sc20

That is normal. You can open the end to remove them for replacement. Make sure you put them back in properly if you do. They work pretty well. I can do better on my own now but they do work well.

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[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Hey guys, I ordered a pferd sharpener from Amazon. They had two options the original and a new one. I got the original. That flat file and one of the round wiggle side to side and up and down. Probably about 1/32 or a little more. I don't have any sharpening experience so I was wondering if this is acceptable or will it cause a problem.

3/16 cs-x file
Sharpening .325 Simi chisel chain from Bailey's. Sc20

Every 2 in 1 file is a lemon. They really don’t work. The concept is nice, but in reality, they’re junk. I owned 5 of them for every size chain and brought them OEM Stihl. I sold them all after constant frustration. Buy a round file, a flat file and a progressive raker gauge it’s really not hard to do and the results are far far superior, even from someone who has an hours practise under their belt.

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Hmm, I think you deserve a new chain from them, two trips there and back, both times poorly sharpened. After that first time the owner should have given you a new one.

 

[bwalker]

Every 2 in 1 file is a lemon. They really don’t work. The concept is nice, but in reality, they’re junk. I owned 5 of them for every size chain and brought them OEM Stihl. I sold them all after constant frustration. Buy a round file, a flat file and a progressive raker gauge it’s really not hard to do and the results are far far superior, even from someone who has an hours practise under their belt.

This.

 

[aarontriton]

How do they not work? I have 3 and they work flawless .


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[Vintage Engine Repairs]

How do they not work? I have 3 and they work flawless .


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In my experience they sit too high up on the tooth, instead of giving you a C shape, they work their way back and up giving you a ski ramp of sorts - the tooth starts to scrape and hit the wood rather than severing it. Upload a pic of the tooth from the inside and outside profiles on your chain that’s been filed by the 2 in 1.

I don’t find the chains sharpened on the 2 in 1 self feed either.

 

[redhawk23]

Hopefully this is on topic. The Stihl 2 in 1 works great on stihl chains and not well at all on oregon. I had this experience with 3/8 LP. It appears the teeth are different and it resulted in little gullet and poor sawing. When I went to sharpen it again with a regular file I first had to reform the gullet before the file would even make contact with the tooth. Anyone had this experience? Otherwise on a stihl chain the 2 in 1 is great.

Another question, Is a file guide a necessary, does it keep the file from going too deep?

 

[aarontriton]

I have 2 pferd and 1 Stihl 2 in 1 files I have had no issue with they way they file Stihl and Oregon full chisel chains . I do occasionally hand file in between

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[redhawk23]

I have 2 pferd and 1 Stihl 2 in 1 files I have had no issue with they way they file Stihl and Oregon full chisel chains . I do occasionally hand file in between

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Maybe it depends on the chain, the Oregon was a 3/8 LP semi-chisel. The 2 in 1 worked great on a 3/8 LP chisel Stihl, I believe the difference was the Oregon teeth were taller.
You’d think Oregon would make their own 2 in 1

 

[Vintage Engine Repairs]

Ultimately use whatever works, whatever allows you to make chips and get the job done. If it’s the 2 in 1, the roller guide, normal file guide or just a file I have come to the conclusion that what’s important is that it works for you, your chain and lets you make chips and cut.

 

[Huskybill]

Stay practicing with a file n guide and a round file.

 

[Bigbore50]

I have 2 pferd and 1 Stihl 2 in 1 files I have had no issue with they way they file Stihl and Oregon full chisel chains . I do occasionally hand file in between

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Pferd makes both. They make them for Stihl with the Stihl name on it.

 

[cgeb]

I have 2 grinders, dozens of single files and probably 8 - 2 in 1's I use them all and they all work great given the condition of the chain. I use the 2 in 1's when the chain is on the saw then clean up the gullet with a smaller single file. Hey whatever works for you use it...

 

[HarleyT]

If you bought it from Amazon, as with other sources, it may be some cheapo junk sold as the brand you thought you bought.

 

[cookies]

The 2 in 1 works excellent, The bar can not be a worn out wh0re and the chain needs to be adjusted tightly to prevent the chain from rocking to get the correct angles during filing. Setting the saw up in a vise or stump vise helps tremendously with the task. Its a simple tool used to sharpen chain and hit the rakers at the same time and it does a much better job than I can free hand filing with the chain on the saw. If you are expecting it to do the same job in the 8 minutes it takes to use it as someone using 3 files a lighted magnifying glass and whatever else they use that will spend 30+ minutes then your expecting too much out of a 30 dollar all in one file that does not mount to the bar or require setting up a jig with a protractor to use.

 

[tomalophicon]

In my experience they sit too high up on the tooth, instead of giving you a C shape, they work their way back and up giving you a ski ramp of sorts - the tooth starts to scrape and hit the wood rather than severing it. Upload a pic of the tooth from the inside and outside profiles on your chain that’s been filed by the 2 in 1.

I don’t find the chains sharpened on the 2 in 1 self feed either.

I don't use one but my mate has two. His cutters have an excellent profile and cut like mad. And he doesn't pay much attention to sharpening at all.

 

[redhawk23]

I don't use one but my mate has two. His cutters have an excellent profile and cut like mad. And he doesn't pay much attention to sharpening at all.

What brand chains? Sounds like my experience on Oregon 3/8 lp chain.

 

[tomalophicon]

What brand chains? Sounds like my experience on Oregon 3/8 lp chain.

He uses Stihl chain exclusively as there is a dealer close by. 3/8lp and .325.
Can't comment on anything bigger but was impressed with the results of the 2in1.
But I prefer using a file 'n' joint in the shed and then touching up just with a file in the field.