If it makes you feel better, the “pop” on my 361 is very easy to miss. Miss it and it is then only a few pulls from flooding. When flooded, it takes a lot of pulling to start. My other saws behave much better.
Ron
Standard Troubleshooting Sequence?
- Thread starter Canyon Angler
- Start date
Help Support Arborist Forum:
Ron
Was it very hot there maybe vapor lock?
The bit about running the saw upside down caught my attention.
not the first time ive seen the fuel filter lodged up out of the fuel when run on odd angles, it just didnt flop back down into the fuel as it should.
No fuel, no start.
Is the fuel hose starting to get a bit hard ?
Let us know what you find.
Canyon Angler
Addicted to ArboristSite
Good stuff, thank you, that's going into storage for future reference.
Yes, it was pretty hot, and the saw had a workout prior to shutting it down the last time. But I did let it idle for a minute to let it cool a bit before turning it off...
Interesting, I had not even thought of that. Thanks for the tip.
The hose didn't seem too stiff when I replaced the filter, and I didn't notice it being fouled in the wrong position, but it's possible I just didn't notice...
One thing I wondered about is whether the fuel tank could have gotten pressurized and forced too much fuel into the carb. I had that happen with an E-TEC outboard motor where Evinrude made the fuel tank vent so that it would allow air INTO the tank, but wouldn't let pressure OUT of the tank. (One-way duckbill valve.) Stupidest goddam idea I ever heard. You're out in the boat on a sunny day (who ever uses a BOAT when it's HOT and SUNNY???) and the sun heats and pressurizes the tank, and the pressure has nowhere to go except to push a sh!tload of fuel into the fuel-injection system and ... it's flooded and won't start! Had that happen with a brand-new motor...wouldn't start at the ramp and I had to go home. Glad it didn't happen in an inlet or somebody might have got hurt!
Anyway, thanks again, guys. I appreciate all your help.
Ive also seen oilers do the same thing.Good stuff, thank you, that's going into storage for future reference.
Yes, it was pretty hot, and the saw had a workout prior to shutting it down the last time. But I did let it idle for a minute to let it cool a bit before turning it off...
Interesting, I had not even thought of that. Thanks for the tip.
The hose didn't seem too stiff when I replaced the filter, and I didn't notice it being fouled in the wrong position, but it's possible I just didn't notice...
One thing I wondered about is whether the fuel tank could have gotten pressurized and forced too much fuel into the carb. I had that happen with an E-TEC outboard motor where Evinrude made the fuel tank vent so that it would allow air INTO the tank, but wouldn't let pressure OUT of the tank. (One-way duckbill valve.) Stupidest goddam idea I ever heard. You're out in the boat on a sunny day (who ever uses a BOAT when it's HOT and SUNNY???) and the sun heats and pressurizes the tank, and the pressure has nowhere to go except to push a sh!tload of fuel into the fuel-injection system and ... it's flooded and won't start! Had that happen with a brand-new motor...wouldn't start at the ramp and I had to go home. Glad it didn't happen in an inlet or somebody might have got hurt!
Anyway, thanks again, guys. I appreciate all your help.
Re pressurising the carb, dont think so, if you have a leaking needle, you would experience other issues, which you have not mentioned, tho maybe something got stuck under the seat of the needle in that particular instance, but as it was running fine beforehand, I dont think thats it. its normal for fuel to pressurise in the tank.
Different scenario in the boat too, with a different fuel delivery system, but I see where you going with it.
Then exhaust..since I've been fooled by that one twice. In fact I check exhaust for blockage pretty early on now.
I consider that to fall under compression, in other words, the condition of the piston and rings. Muffler off is right after pulling the sparkplug and checking for spark or a wet-flooded condition.
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2014
- Messages
- 21,130
- Reaction score
- 24,964
What about those junky Husqapoulans that bring the threads out when you take off the muffler bolts??
Gotta love that...
Gotta love that...
- Joined
- Jul 19, 2019
- Messages
- 4,226
- Reaction score
- 8,456
Bit of jbweld smeared on the aluminium clogged threads will tighten that back up for ya!
I've had em strip when tightening, haven't had one strip when loosening, and JB weld is terrible for threads.
Canyon Angler
Addicted to ArboristSite
After my 361 quit the other day, a friend lent me his fairly new Husky 240 since I didn't want to do a lot of limbing with my 660, and man, that saw was tuned screamy LEAN. He said that was the way he got it. Went to adjust it and -- nopey, need a special spline tool to adjust the jets. Back to humping the 660 since I didn't want to burn up the saw his son had given him as a gift.
I've had screws pull aluminum threads out of outboard engine lower units, gotta love galvanic corrosion. Where those GRABBER screws at???
Another thought about the fuel line, as I had it happen to me. I tey to take my 359 out and run it from time to time, almost always take my 390xp with as well. I had a leaner that had blow over and hung up in another tree, root ball and all. Had hooked the winch up, fired the 359 up, went to make a notch in the backside of the tree down near the root ball. Flipped the saw on the starter side to make the cut and it died. Flipped it right side up, fired it up and got about halfway through my first cut and it died again. Fiddled around with it for a wile, the basically threw it in the truck and grabbed the 390xp and cut with that for the day. (I was pretty pissed, the 359 has never failed me) any way, got home and got to messing with it, the fuel line had partially torn right at the fuel filter and had bypassed the filter sucking crap up into the carb. The filter was just so hanging on, I I think it got so half wedged in the tank keeping the saw from getting fuel when I Flipped it over. The fuel line (genuine husqy) was soft and half mushy. Replaced it and cleaned out the carb and back to running good again. Now I take 3 saws with me.... hated using the 390xp all day on and 20" tree, doing all the limb work and everything.
- Joined
- Jul 19, 2019
- Messages
- 4,226
- Reaction score
- 8,456
Shite, should I have added a laughing emoji to emphasise it was a piss taking post?
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2014
- Messages
- 21,130
- Reaction score
- 24,964
In Ky. we just use drywall screws and lag bolts, with some duct tape.Shite, should I have added a laughing emoji to emphasise it was a piss taking post?
JB weld is my go to for a lot of repairs, just not threads. I usually spot satire right off, but Bob got me on that one.
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2014
- Messages
- 21,130
- Reaction score
- 24,964
No, that and apologizing is a sign of weakness....Shite, should I have added a laughing emoji to emphasise it was a piss taking post?
One must keep them wondering all of the time....
If I'm wrong, I have no problem apologizing on those rare occasions!
