Tree Damage From Crop Spraying

[Bill G]

Looks like the yard has been hit with agent orange.
... oh, wait, it has.

NO IT HAS NOT and that right there is a slap in the face to those fine men and women that were HONESTLY impacted by the actual "agent orange" That comment is as low as I have seen in awhile. That comment well..............

 

[Bill G]

This one is reserved for special people and for special occasions and I believe the time has come to bring it out of storage... also time for me to smack that ignore button again.
Adios muchacho.
Now,

That shows your maturity level. No one has disputed including myself your plants suffered some damage. That in no way EVER gives you any right to try to EVER equate that plant damage to the health damage inflicted on and suffered by those brave young men and women that were subject to "Agent Orange". There is ZERO argument in that

 

[pdqdl]

NO IT HAS NOT and that right there is a slap in the face to those fine men and women that were HONESTLY impacted by the actual "agent orange" That comment is as low as I have seen in awhile. That comment well..............

Agent orange was pretty much a strong version of 2,4,5-T ester (mixed 50/50 with 2,4-D).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange
It was very closely related to the 2,4-D you are familiar with. It was just a better defoliant, and it contained a surprisingly strong dose of dioxin. Dioxin is a seriously hazardous chemical byproduct of the 2,4,5-T manufacturing process, and would normally have been filtered out.

It is my personal belief that because the Army was using it as an agent against an enemy, the manufacturer took all the dioxin filtered out from their USA consumer products and disposed of it by adding their extra waste to what they were dumping on a foreign country. Of course, that's just my theory, and I have no documentation for that notion. There sure were a bunch of GI's that came down with odd complications, and agent orange was finally tied to those symptoms.

Interesting side note: Times Beach, a small town in Missouri was used as a disposal site for the dioxins removed from a manufacturer's plant that guess what? ...made agent orange for the army. It turns out some bright guy was spraying the dirt roads in that town with 6 loads of dioxin/waste mixed with one truckload of oil. Just to keep down the dust.

 

[pdqdl]

Replying causes them to multiply. Just like posts in the P&R forum.

 

[pdqdl]

Yes. But that's for another thread.

I have no intention of engaging anyone on that topic. Folk been fighting over that topic since the '60's.

 

[Bill G]

Yes, they will. There is no comparison between what happened to our troops and what happened to some plants in Tennessee

 

[Bill G]

Hey, you guys, I've got a question about the veggies...
Since the mother plants have been "inoculated" with the 2,4-D ester, and survived (so far), will the seeds be 2,4-D resistant?

No

 

[Smitty Smithsonite]

I was 8th row for AC/DC during the Razors Edge tour in '91. I still have the AC/DC dollar bill I knocked over 5 people to catch, lol - they dropped a million of them from the ceiling. It has a picture of a devil-horned Angus in the middle of it. I still have it around here somewhere! Hopefully the mice didn't destroy it. It's in my old bureau that remains untouched since I was a teenager. The mice turned it into a condominium ...

 

[farmer steve]

Hey, you guys, I've got a question about the veggies...
Since the mother plants have been "inoculated" with the 2,4-D ester, and survived (so far), will the seeds be 2,4-D resistant?

More than likely not. The seeds may not even be viable.

 

[Bill G]

More than likely not. The seeds may not even be viable.

It would be interesting to save the seeds and do a germination study on them. You would also need like seeds from unaffected plants

 

[pdqdl]

Hey, you guys, I've got a question about the veggies...
Since the mother plants have been "inoculated" with the 2,4-D ester, and survived (so far), will the seeds be 2,4-D resistant?

No.

 

[Bill G]

Well there are two firm No's and a most likely not. Wonder if someone will argue the point.....

 

[Bill G]

Looks like good firewood to me. As for the ring of dead, well that's called killing weeds and grass along the edge to stop encroachment

 

[Bill G]

Pics to ponder.....................

 

[Bill G]

A few more to ponder????????????????

 

[Bill G]

Those who truly understand how 2-4_D, Glyphosate, and other true contact herbicides work will see very clearly what the pictures show. This is real life experience and not something read on Al Gore's internet

 

[kyle1!]

Do you farm corn/soy?

No I do not. My garden is right next to the soy field that was sprayed though. My green beans and peppers don't look good with their cupped leaves but my other items look fine. So I am thinking maybe aphids/white flies are attacking those plants and it is not the spray.

I do have a youngish sugar maple that is close to field as well. Its leaves never look good but it keeps on growing so???

 

[Bill G]

No I do not.

So do you work for Pioneer?

 

[kyle1!]

So do you work for Pioneer?

Yes I do. Pioneer is no longer except on the bags of seed. We are Corteva AgSciences now.

 

[Bill G]

Yes I do. Pioneer is no longer except on the bags of seed. We are Corteva AgSciences now.

Yes just another one of the changes, buyouts, consolidations, whatever you want to refer to it as. It is typical especially in the ag sector