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Dynasorb Rigging line??

Discussion in 'Commercial Tree Care and Climbing' started by TreeAce, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. TreeAce

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    I am thinking about buying a new 1/2'' 200ft rigging line and was considering Dynasorb. Anyone out there use it? I am concerned that it will be to "strectchy" . I also wonder if it runs ok natural crotch ? I like to use a block but I am also big on double crotching (even triple on special occasions).What about Polydyne ? I am also thinkn about super-braid plus or stable braid . I currently am using Double Esterlon for a 1/2'' rig line and I like it and may well just stay with that type . Mostly I just think ropes are cool and am lookin for a reason to buy a new one : ) .
     
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    I dont think you can go wrong with stable or super braid.
     
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    I'm guessing you're using this for limbs and small diameter wood, right?

    Ok, if that is the case, I would look into American Arborists line of ropes.....they have a half inch double braid composite, that is made from another manufacturer, where you aren't paying for a name brand. The polydyne rope is simply double braid composite core rope....renamed for new "flare"....
    I run a green fleck and yellow double braid composite from American Arborist that is super for rigging large limbs and small wood. I believe the tensile is something 12500lbs with a WLL of 1875 lb.... it performs well in pulleys with a Portawrap set up for friction braking. I shy away from natural crotch with this rope because it tends to burn if you let it run too fast.

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    Try Samson's Stable Braid - less "stretchy" than DynaSorb or your Double E, proven strength and easy to splice an eye into it. Works best with a block for a false crotch and can be used with the Port-A-Wrap or GRCS.
     
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    I think ol' TreeAce was looking for the dynasorb because it is stretchy. While stable braid is my rope of preference, I have been thinking about getting the dynasorb too.

    It's hard to beat having a softer yank when a groundy locks up the rope rather than "letting it run" perfectly. I think the dynamic stretch of a stretchier rope would be excellent for a lot of rigging situations.

    Just not everywhere.
     
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    True that, maybe we need to find stretchier groundies. There was a thread on TBzz recently about the cover milking real bad even with blocks.
     
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    I already have a 5/8 stable braid and I like it just fine . Its good rope for sure . As far as alittle strectchy goes...ya thats kinda what I was after ALITTLE strecthy good...sometimes. I would prolly be best off with a 5/8 Dyna for chunkn down wood but I cant justify the cost cuz I have a perfectly good stable braid already . I will be needing a new 1/2" since my 150ft double Esterlon is now about 110 ft or so thanks to some careless groundman incidents . Ever look down from about 50 ft or so and watch a groundie untie a branch n then just let go and watch the rope swing right into a chainsaw being run by another guy who just cant wait or pay attention to what the other guy is doing and the whole time the chipper is so loud that trying to yell is in vain and the crazy part is you see it comn and u cant stop it and FURTHERMORE....we talked about this a couple days before it happened and at that time EVERBODY ALREADY KNOWS NOT TO DO THAT!?!? know what I mean?
     
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    Wait until some stupid groundie lets your climbing line get wound up in a disk chipper and it starts winding like a winch ,a power-full one at that and then the tree starts to bend more and more well I think you get my meaning.
     
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    Holy Crap !! Dude....wow. Do u ever keep a whistle on a clip thing to use as an attention getter? I thought about it and prolly should...It wouldn't have helped my rope cuz it was to fast but I do know a guy whos rope was tangled in brush that a guy had in the grapple with a skid stear and was driven away n he laid on that whistle n everbody heard it , chipper runnin n all.
     
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    I keep a whistle on me when we are trimming in the power lines and shut the chipper off at the critical cuts, A serrated knife would be a good thing to have on you.
     
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    I have chipper off at times like that also . I thought about buyn a petzl knife with a hole in it for a carabiner but I would think my hand saw would work better as far as just cutting a line in a hurry. My silky handsaw will cut a rope like its nothin. fingers to.
     
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    I had a groundie run my line into a chipper in San Diego, pulled tight on me as I cut the rope in quick fashion! He had to run very fast when I hit the ground because he knew I was coming for him. I have never lost mt tact before that day, and it didn't feel good, I really wanted to hurt that guy and he knew it. He showed the next day, came right up to me with a new rope he got from the company store, apologized with graciousness, I took the rope and beat the crap out of him.............just kidding! I accepted the apology and kindly explained to him why he wouldn't be on my crew anymore!
    I carry several different rigging lines, I feel that the differences are good because not all applications are the same, this way, my diversity in rope has always got me covered for what ever i want to do, I don't carry the bigens with me, they come out only when on BIG trees (5/8 300' double's) I set aside about 500 a month to buy extra gear. I do like the sound of more stretch, could think of a couple apps, that would have been better to have more stretch.
    I agree, hate it when they don't let it run, or when they do the opposite.


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    Lonesome Dove. an thx for the imput. I decided to wait on buying anything till the TCIA EXPO . Perfect place to check stuff out I would think . Never been before and I cant wait!!
     
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    You are now in the lead!
    I love Lonesome Dove, Greatest western saga ever, have watched all 500,000 hours of the 4 movies!

    Good call on the expo, those guys don't want to carry all that stuff back to their stores, good time to make a deal.
     
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    Double crotch a is key piece of knowledge to have, no doubt.

    Sometimes I like to throw the rigging line through just the right third crotch (even if not that big, since already doubled), and try and balance a lead, like a crane cut.

    I personally cant really think of any need for this new stretchy rigging line though.
     
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    I been doing it a long time and dont see a need yet just let it run a little same thing no?
    Sorry for the confusion I meant I dont see a need for a rope to stretch more when you can just let the rope run a little to smooth some shock out .
     
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    You have me confused.. so you're saying you don't see the benefit of double crotching your main rigging line, and prefer to just let it run, and take the stress off the rigging point that way?
     
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    No I think double crotching is a real good plan.
    Sorry for the confusion I meant I dont see a need for a rope to stretch more when you can just let the rope run a little to smooth some shock out .
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    Oh, I see.. and I agree, stretchy rope gay, double crotching good! lol.
     
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    Now can we talk about my new loopie sling i never used one before and the old dead eye was worn out and I was told they are easier to use any feedback on this?
     

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